<br><br> James Kagwe via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br><br><p dir="ltr">Machine learning can be considered subordinate to algorithm in this context. Remember an application must have some elements of algorithm but not neccesarily apply the principles of machine learning. In my view it's the algorithm at fault here.</p>
<p dir="ltr">My thoughts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Rgds,<br>
James Kagwe</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 12, 2016 6:57 PM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree there would not be Machine Learning without Algorithms. But lets examine the nature of a lie. A lie contains an element of "data" in it. Algorithms are computational in nature, so if fed with "lies" .. that's where the problem is.<br><br></div>My point is we cant really squarely blame the Algorithm, we have to blame the data (Algorithms + Data = Machine Learning).<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Exactly Ahmed. :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">So would you agree that without algorithms there will be no machine learning? </p><span>
<p dir="ltr">Ali Hussein <br>
Tel: +254 713 601113</p>
</span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On May 12, 2016 6:48 PM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy" <<a href="mailto:ultimateprogramer@gmail.com" target="_blank">ultimateprogramer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I may be wrong anyway Ali. But maybe its the way I see these 2 disciplines.<br><br>But I think Algorithms are more of computations and logic operations. Machine Learning gives these Algorithms the decision making capabilities and comprise of a set of algorithms + historic data with the capability to make predicitions.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Ahmed</p>
<p dir="ltr">I stand educated. :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thank you.</p><span><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">Ali Hussein <br>
Tel: +254 713 601113</p></font></span><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 12, 2016 6:42 PM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy" <<a href="mailto:ultimateprogramer@gmail.com" target="_blank">ultimateprogramer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Ali, This is what I mean:<br><br></div>Algorithms: a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, especially by a computer.<br><br></div>Machine Learning: Machine learning is a subfield of computer science that evolved from the study of pattern recognition and computational learning theory in artificial intelligence. In 1959, Arthur Samuel defined machine learning as a "Field of study that gives computers the ability to learn without being explicitly programmed"<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Ahmed</div><div><br></div><div>Machine learning doesn't happen in a vacuum...<span><br><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke