<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Healthy discussions guys.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Though the subject matter of the discussion is deceptive and may make one conclude that this discussion is all about Facebook. :-)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">It's not. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Nanjira, thanks for bringing this up and let's work as Kictanet to make this NN public forum happen.<br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 11 Feb 2016, at 2:37 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Sure thing. And we can also have some of the people who've worked on the issue in India, who can join in virtually. I'll let you know once paper is published, as we need this to progress from an objective, evidence-based rather than emotive, opinion-based view point.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font><div><font style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Regards,</font></font></div><div><div style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"></div></div><div><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="font-size:11px;color:rgb(51,61,71)"><tbody><tr><td height="20" valign="bottom"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td height="20" valign="bottom"><font size="2.5" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Nanjira Sambuli<br></font><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="font-family:verdana"><tbody><tr><td height="20" valign="bottom"><font size="2.5"></font></td></tr><tr><td height="15" valign="bottom"><font color="#949494" size="1">Research Lead </font></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td height="15" valign="bottom"><font color="#949494" size="1" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font></td></tr><tr><td height="15" valign="middle"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://www.ihub.co.ke/web_images/signature_line.gif" style="width:auto;height:1px"></font></td></tr><tr><td height="20" valign="middle"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.ihub.co.ke/" style="color:rgb(104,115,122);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">iHub</a> | <a href="http://www.ihub.co.ke/research" style="color:rgb(104,115,122);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Research</a> | <a href="http://www.ihub.co.ke/uxlab" style="color:rgb(104,115,122);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">UXLab</a> | <a href="http://www.ihub.co.ke/consulting" style="color:rgb(104,115,122);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Consulting</a></font></td></tr><tr><td height="25" valign="bottom"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Mobile:</strong> +254722481566</font></td></tr><tr><td height="20" valign="middle"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Skype:</strong> nanjirasambuli | <strong>Twitter:</strong> @NiNanjira</font></td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" height="35"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://www.ihub.co.ke/web_images/signature_logo.png"></font></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Many thanks Nanjira,</p>
<p>Maybe you could consider a soft launch for the paper to coincide with with a national stakeholder discussion on the same issue. Happy to help set this up. I agree with you the issue is not just facebook, there is more that needs to be understood and unravelled.</p>
<p>Regards</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 11, 2016 1:07 PM, "Nanjira Sambuli" <<a href="mailto:nanjira@ihub.co.ke" target="_blank">nanjira@ihub.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div>I am finalising a paper on this, extensive research on what the issues are. I'll be able to share the published version in the Journal of Cyber Policy by the end of the month. </div><div>Highlights though:</div><div>1. Emerging markets need a different definition of NN. I shared a blog post by Prof Vishal Misra explaining why price discrimination needs to be part of the definition. </div><div>2. This is not just about Facebook. Their offering for zero rating is an issue! But alternative forms of zero-rating exist, and will share more examples of such, eg Mozilla's.</div><div>3. This is a critical discussion for us, and for it to happen, we need to delink the issues. I will also be on BBC World Service this evening talking about the problematic framing around the battle for net neutrality as denying the poor access to the Internet. It is a shame, that in this day and age, we can be told, or can believe that these aren't issues for us to consider or stand for. </div><div><br></div><div>More soon. </div><div><br><br><div><div><br></div><div>Regards, </div><div>Nanjira.</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone.</div></div><div><br>On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:47, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>Hi Nanjira,</p>
<p>I think we need a sober discussion on this matter for it to be fully understood. Kictanet can take a lead on this.<br><br></p>
<p>Regards</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 11, 2016 11:27 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The CS is cited as saying that we won't go the India route.<br>
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I'm amazed at how reporting on the TRAI decision has been summarised to banning Free Basics; the bigger picture and ruling relegated to the back seat...<br>
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<a href="http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/will-block-free-access-facebook-says-government/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/will-block-free-access-facebook-says-government/</a><br>
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Nanjira.<br>
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