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Ngigi,</div><div><br></div><div>Sometimes it's good to put some of these things into context. Which law prohibits sharing of images that say Yassin Juma broke? </div><div><br></div><div>Also for the guy who was arrested coz of publishing information about Kabogo and eggs. Why does the state have an interest in a case like that instead of it being a civil matter.</div><div><br></div><div>A common thread in all this is that the intention in all these cases is to intimidate the person and others like them so that they don't share information critical to certain people. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm not for defending people who have broken the law but it doesn't seem that any of these people have broken any laws. </div><br></div></div></div>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:17:06 +0300<br>
From: Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>><br>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of<br>
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Mwendwa,<br>
<br>
I get and understand your PoV.<br>
<br>
But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also<br>
misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to<br>
spread the same fear.<br>
<br>
Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse of<br>
the laws.<br>
<br>
Rgds<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<br>
<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yes GG,<br>
><br>
> And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of<br>
> the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other<br>
> legislation which seek to balance these rights.<br>
><br>
> But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who<br>
> want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in<br>
> timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms<br>
> when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society,<br>
> and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if<br>
> we do that, it will only be an illusion.<br>
><br>
> On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online<br>
> > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a<br>
> > balance? #Just asking.<br>
> ><br>
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300<br>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of<br>
> > Kenyans online<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> > CC: <a href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:muthoni@bake.or.ke">muthoni@bake.or.ke</a>;<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Ali,<br>
> > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to<br>
> > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all<br>
> > bloggers.<br>
> > Best, Muthoni<br>
> > Dorcas<br>
> > With all due respect.<br>
> > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the<br>
> > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These<br>
> bad<br>
> > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears.<br>
> > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone<br>
> > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be<br>
> careful we<br>
> > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu.<br>
> > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free<br>
> > speech and association.Ali<br>
> > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates<br>
> ><br>
> > Tel: +254 713 601113<br>
> > Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
> ><br>
> > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the<br>
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> > that I work with.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in<br>
> the<br>
> > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I<br>
> think<br>
> > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing<br>
> with<br>
> > such bloggers.<br>
> > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet"<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Hello,<br>
> ><br>
> > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and<br>
> prosecution<br>
> > of Kenyans online. Read more here:<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/----" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/----</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Kind regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya<br>
> (BAKE)<br>
> ><br>
> > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927<br>
> > e: <a href="mailto:muthoni@bake.or.ke">muthoni@bake.or.ke</a> w: <a href="http://bake.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bake.co.ke</a> | b: <a href="http://blog.bake.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">blog.bake.co.ke</a><br>
> ><br>
> > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> >> From: Yaovi Atohoun <<a href="mailto:yaovi.atohoun@icann.org">yaovi.atohoun@icann.org</a>><br>
> ><br>
> >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3<br>
> ><br>
> >> To: AfrICANN Community List <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> ><br>
> >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application<br>
> >> Rounds Open for ICANN56<br>
> ><br>
> >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes<br>
> >> NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre<br>
> fin<br>
> >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s<br>
> >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re<br>
> >> visiter: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en</a><br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN<br>
> >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama<br>
> >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and<br>
> >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March<br>
> >> 2016. Please read more at<br>
> >> <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en</a><br>
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> >> Yaovi Atohoun<br>
> ><br>
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