<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Brian</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men)<br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"></p><font><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com">blongwe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi all,<br><br></div>I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions on them regarding their services.<br><br></div><div>Please, let us be clear what we are talking about.<br><br></div><div>Best regards,<br><br></div><div>Brian<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Linda</div><div><br></div><div>Please see my responses against your comments<br><br><div><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:%2B254%200713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> / 0770906375</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></p><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng <<a href="mailto:lindaochieng@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lindaochieng@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix
must adhere to the regulations governing distribution of such content in line
with all the laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium
they are using to make that content available to their target consumers. That
is the only way the firm’s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, the law
applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or users of online
platforms.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our
cyberspace against infiltration with content that is overly violent and
damaging to our national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most of the
movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as suitable
for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to children. That
is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have access to the
Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we support such content?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us all. We should fight it with all we have.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media
reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these
platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion as to
what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of 'Serikali saidia'! <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The source is online platforms. This should worry
every good citizen. Radicalization is also one other major concern in online
channels of content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be
given all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of
content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not affected by these challenges?</span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br></span></div></div></div></blockquote>Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the same script.<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. </span><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their
content for classification as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will
be illegal and must in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. </span><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Let us not be against regulation without
considering its benefits to our country.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and they really need to continue in the same vein.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Regards</span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><br></span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Linda</span></div><div style="text-align:justify;line-height:150%" dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b>Amazon Tech Heights. Org</b></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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