Barrack, you are right. We are 'advancing' as a people at the expense of the traditional values of our society.<div><br></div><div>Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a discussion about morals and ethics.</div><div><br></div><div>Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard.</div><div><br></div><div>As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as parental control - for all OTTP related services. Who knows the videos our children share with their friends on Whatsapp, IG ...</div><div><br></div><div>Specifically, my opinion is a local used legislation must be inclusive and multifaceted. Mere blocking of content might be a simplistic approach to a complex situation.<br><br>On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Colleagues,<br>
<br>
Just to weigh in on this discussion.<br>
<br>
Its hard to be a government officer in this day and age :-). We are<br>
not doing well on the Social Pillar in so far as our Vision 2030<br>
aspirations are concerned. This has to do with our value systems as a<br>
nation. Value systems are largely developed through what we hear, what<br>
we read and what we see, some of us are lucky to have grown when value<br>
systems existed. Regardless of the technological, cross border and<br>
geo-political aspects at play we have to achieve balance. I therefore<br>
pose this question to colleagues?<br>
<br>
What would you do if you were in charge of the Kenya Film<br>
Classification board in light of national aspirations and<br>
constitutional expectations?<br>
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Ready to receive views for and against.<div<br>
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On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti via kictanet <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke')">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> Linda makes a good case, Re: regulation of Netflix<br>
><br>
> Just wondering if you are aware one can set a 'child' account.<br>
><br>
> IMO, the supposed regulation will at best stir curiosity. Remember the<br>
> banning of 'The Wolf of Wall Street' locally? The effects were opposite of<br>
> the intent.<br>
><br>
> We ought to champion for self regulation and individual commitment to<br>
> uphold the right values.<br>
><br>
> The cyber space is a different kind of a beast.<br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke')">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
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>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300<br>
>> From: Ali Hussein <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ali@hussein.me.ke')">ali@hussein.me.ke</a> <javascript:;>><br>
>> To: Linda Ochieng <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'lindaochieng@yahoo.com')">lindaochieng@yahoo.com</a> <javascript:;>><br>
>> Cc: "<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke')">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <javascript:;>" <<br>
>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke')">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <javascript:;>>,<br>
>> "<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'mutua.ezekiel@yahoo.com')">mutua.ezekiel@yahoo.com</a> <javascript:;>" <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'mutua.ezekiel@yahoo.com')">mutua.ezekiel@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> <javascript:;>>, "<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jwalu@yahoo.com')">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <javascript:;>"<br>
>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jwalu@yahoo.com')">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <javascript:;>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', '14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke')">14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke</a><br>
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>> Linda<br>
>><br>
>> Please see my responses against your comments<br>
>><br>
>> Ali Hussein<br>
>> Principal<br>
>> Hussein & Associates<br>
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375<br>
>><br>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
>> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br>
>> Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking<br>
>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>><br>
>> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'lindaochieng@yahoo.com')">lindaochieng@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts<br>
>> specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to<br>
>> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all<br>
>> the<br>
>> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they<br>
>> are<br>
>> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is<br>
>> the<br>
>> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know,<br>
>> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or<br>
>> users of online platforms.<br>
>><br>
>> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and<br>
>> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing.<br>
>> Why<br>
>> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top)<br>
>> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against<br>
>> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our<br>
>> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most<br>
>> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated<br>
>> as<br>
>> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to<br>
>> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children<br>
>> have<br>
>> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we<br>
>> support such content?<br>
>><br>
>> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide<br>
>> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us<br>
>> all. We should fight it with all we have.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media<br>
>> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on<br>
>> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable<br>
>> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in<br>
>> such<br>
>> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret,<br>
>> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask?<br>
>><br>
>> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us<br>
>> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in<br>
>> our<br>
>> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police<br>
>> in<br>
>> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality<br>
>> of<br>
>> 'Serikali saidia'!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material<br>
>> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The<br>
>> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen.<br>
>> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of<br>
>> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given<br>
>> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of<br>
>> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is<br>
>> not<br>
>> affected by these challenges?<br>
>> ><br>
>> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our<br>
>> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from<br>
>> the<br>
>> same script.<br>
>><br>
>> > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content<br>
>> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without<br>
>> exception.<br>
>> Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification<br>
>> as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and<br>
>> must<br>
>> in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be<br>
>> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country.<br>
>><br>
>> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script<br>
>> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on<br>
>> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know<br>
>> it<br>
>> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives<br>
>> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of<br>
>> the<br>
>> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and<br>
>> they really need to continue in the same vein.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Regards<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Linda<br>
>> > Amazon Tech Heights. Org<br>
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>> Listers,<br>
>> FYI.<br>
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>><br>
>> January 8, 2016, Legislative Update 001<br>
>> See it Online<br>
>> <<br>
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>> Kenya Law Legislative Updates<br>
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