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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px; line-height: 21.6px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">"Ezekiel Mutua, the KFCB chief executive, insisted that Kenya’s membership of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) gives it the mandate to fully regulate and govern its cyberspace, making Netflix no exception."</span></div><div><br></div>Really? This shows that the regulator was not consulted on the practicality of this matter. Like I said, KFCB needs a brief on the ABC of streaming. <div><br></div><div>Thanks Ngigi for sharing.<br><div><br></div><div>Rgds</div><div>GG<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:11:12 +0300<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya<br>From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>CC: ngigi@at.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br><br><div dir="ltr">And I guess, wisdom prevails (...CA disagrees on regulating Netflix...)<div><br><div><a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Regulators-clash-over-plan-to-censor-Netflix-online-movies/-/539550/3029548/-/ukn4yz/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Regulators-clash-over-plan-to-censor-Netflix-online-movies/-/539550/3029548/-/ukn4yz/-/index.html</a><br></div></div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke" target="_blank">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">@Walu,<div><br></div><div>You know how it is with great ..... :-)</div><div><br></div><div>See you tomorrow....</div></div><div class="ecxHOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>@Ngigi,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not have to read it :-(</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>walu.</span></div><div><br></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke" target="_blank">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM<span><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya<br> </span></font> </div> <div><div><div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr">Mwendwa,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US?</div><div>Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US?</div><div>Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya</div><div>Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and understood across the board.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing...</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Rgds</div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. <br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards.</div>
<div dir="ltr">> But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. <br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money.</div>
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