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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:48:32 +0300<br>
From: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
To: Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya<br>
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Ngigi<br>
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Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-<br>
<br>
What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents?<br>
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> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ali,<br>
><br>
> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts...<br>
><br>
> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated?<br>
><br>
> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation?<br>
><br>
> Rgds<br>
><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Ngigi<br>
>><br>
>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday.<br>
>><br>
>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.<br>
>><br>
>> Ali Hussein<br>
>> Principal<br>
>> Hussein & Associates<br>
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375<br>
>><br>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
>> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br>
>> Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>><br>
>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Listers,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I just came across this<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it?<br>
>>><br>
>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
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Ali,<br>
<br>
Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an<br>
instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB...<br>
<br>
I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the<br>
dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of<br>
insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame)<br>
<br>
In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess<br>
with our morals :-)..."<br>
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Ngigi<br>
><br>
> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-<br>
><br>
> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable<br>
> to Regulate torrents?<br>
><br>
> *Ali Hussein*<br>
> *Principal*<br>
> *Hussein & Associates*<br>
> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375<br>
><br>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
><br>
> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
><br>
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> <<a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a>><br>
><br>
> Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
><br>
> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking<br>
> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ali,<br>
><br>
> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without<br>
> having to use those VPN accounts...<br>
><br>
> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated?<br>
><br>
> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya<br>
> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require<br>
> regulation?<br>
><br>
> Rgds<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Ngigi<br>
>><br>
>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday.<br>
>><br>
>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.<br>
>><br>
>> *Ali Hussein*<br>
>> *Principal*<br>
>> *Hussein & Associates*<br>
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375<br>
>><br>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
>><br>
>> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
>><br>
>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br>
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>><br>
>> Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking<br>
>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>><br>
>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Listers,<br>
>><br>
>> I just came across this<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate<br>
>> Netflix.<br>
>><br>
>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it?<br>
>><br>
>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film<br>
>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have<br>
>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> *Regards,*<br>
>><br>
>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*<br>
>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod<br>
>> Building<br>
>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000<br>
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