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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" lang="en-US" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Ali,</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">It's a trend that's currently happening across the board where the most extreme version of the laws becomes *default* and it's only watered down after protests and legal suits.</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Very unfortunate.</div><span class=""> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Waithaka Ngigi<br><br>Alliance Technologies<br><a href="http://www.at.co.ke" target="_blank">www.at.co.ke</a> </div> </span><table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>Ali Hussein</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:08 PM</div><span class=""><div><b>To: </b>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</div></span><div><b>Cc: </b>Waithaka Ngigi</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [kictanet] Cyber Bill</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div class="h5"><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><div>Waithaka</div><div><br></div><div>You raise critical issues. My sense is that before any law or amendment is drafted for 'public debate' (more on this in a minute) shouldn't the constitutional threshold first be met? </div><div><br></div><div>Shouldn't the drafters of these laws and amendments exhibit utmost good faith in relation to the constitution? There is a lot in these drafts that in my humble opinion just do not meet this threshold. </div><div><br></div><div>On the issue of public debate/comments I have hit fatigue levels for one simple reason.</div><div><br></div><div><b>The lack of transparency in the very process of public comments.</b><br><br>Is there someone on this list who can educate us on this process? My questions:-</div><div><br></div><div>1. What happens after the comments/debate period expires?</div><div>2. Are people's comments incorporated? </div><div>3. Do we receive any feedback regarding our comments?</div><div><br></div><div>Please educate us on this. </div><div><br></div><div>The WCIT12 issue is still fresh in some of our minds. The community was engaged vigorously by the previous regime headed by then Minister Poghisio and his PS, Dr. Ndemo. I was in the Kenya Delegation when Dr. Ndemo declined to sign the new treaty due to major issues of contention one of which was Net Neutrality. </div><div><br></div><div>Enter the new regime and we now hear the treaty was later signed by Kenya. No explanation given. No announcement. Zilch. </div><div><br></div><div>For the community to feel that their views are being taken into account there needs to be transparency on how these comments/debates at incorporated and decisions made even before they hit parliament for debate. </div><div><br></div><div>My two cents.</div><div style="text-align:start"><br></div><div><div><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:%2B254%200713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> / <a href="tel:0770906375" value="+254770906375" target="_blank">0770906375</a></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.<wbr>com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></p><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:49 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Just wondering,</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">While at it, why not just get the Red Star OS from North Korea and make it the mandatory OS in Kenya?</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">It is the *constitutional* right of every Kenyan Citizen to PRIVACY which can only be lifted through a very well detailed legal process.</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">No act of parliament should attempt mass-collection of private data from Kenyan citizens under the guise of fighting Cyber crimes.</div> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Waithaka Ngigi<br><br>Alliance Technologies<br><a href="http://www.at.co.ke" target="_blank">www.at.co.ke</a> </div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>Josiah Mugambi via kictanet</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, December 30, 2015 10:07 AM</div><div><b>To: </b>Ngigi Waithaka</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</div><div><b>Cc: </b>Josiah Mugambi</div><div><b>Subject: </b>[kictanet] Cyber Bill</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><p dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/article/2000186538/new-law-tightens-noose-on-online-hackers" target="_blank">http://www.standardmedia.co.<wbr>ke/mobile/article/2000186538/<wbr>new-law-tightens-noose-on-<wbr>online-hackers</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Quite the uproar judging by the comments online.</p>
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