<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Joly<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the link. Definitely worth a look.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Grace </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">for every ‘free’ moment of Internet consumed using WhatsApp, Facebook or Gmail is a moment NOT spent consuming local content. One might argue that since FB and WhatsApp are User Generated Content then we are consuming local content. We will be missing the point. This is serious money in terms of advertising that we are freely giving away. Even with Google Ad Products where we are now able to monetise as local publishers the process isn’t really that transparent and while we are giving away ‘eyeballs’ we are building other platforms instead of our own.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is the very essence of Net Neutrality INHO. We need to get ourselves organised to understand the impact of continuing to ignore this. As Obama said in his speech:-</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">'We have not inherited this nation from our forebearers but borrowed it from our children.’</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Every decision we make MUST take that into consideration.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks & Regards<br class=""><br class="">Ali Hussein<br class=""><a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" class="">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><br class=""><br class="">+254 770 906375<br class="">Twitter: @AliHKassim</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Skype: Abu-Jomo</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">LinkedIn: http//<a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" class="">ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br class="">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" class="">www.alyhussein.com</a><br class=""></div>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" class="">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><img src="https://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/189cc24da4624518d34a34a71fdccebf/spacer.gif" style="border:0; width:0; height:0; overflow:hidden;" width="0" height="0" class=""><img src="http://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/189cc24da4624518d34a34a71fdccebf/spacer.gif" style="border:0; width:0; height:0; overflow:hidden;" width="0" height="0" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">​Hi,</div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">The Indian government has just released a report on NN. Here is some BBC commentary​ - <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33605253" class="">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33605253</a></div><font face="yw-b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e-189cc24da4624518d34a34a71fdccebf--to" style="display: none;" class=""></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Ali Hussein via isoc <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke" target="_blank" class="">isoc@lists.my.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Grace, Liz and all<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is a pet issue of mine. Let me be blunt.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Net Neutrality is not something that we understand. We think that it doesn’t affect us, its too foreign and is the preserve of busy bodies who have nothing else to do. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We must address this issue and elevate it to the level of importance it deserves. The average African (Kenyan) doesn't really care about this issue because after all if he/she receives 'free internet’ through <a href="http://internet.org/" target="_blank" class="">internet.org</a> and other initiatives by the internet super powers who are we to say no? We just don’t seem to grasp the devastating effects of continuously being the net consumer of foreign content through social media and other avenues. If we allow this to continue then what happens to all our local content that will be ‘shut out’ of the net through people consuming ‘free internet’?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here’s a favourite Whatsapp message circulating for the last two weeks or so:-</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">‘HEY, I AM INVITING YOU TO ACTIVATE WHATSAPP WITHOUT INTERNET.THIS IS AN AMAZING SERVICE.NOW YOU CAN RUN WHATSAPP WITHOUT INTERNET.CLICK HERE TO ACTIVATE — WHATSAPPNODATA,COM</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Seriously?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m reminded of a discussion I had with some friends a few weeks ago. And it goes something like this:-</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In a Market Place there are three key players:-</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. The Buyer</div><div class="">2. The Seller</div><div class="">3. The Product.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So if you are not a buyer or a seller who are you? (HINT: YOU ARE THE PRODUCT) :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So go ahead and continue to consume ‘free’ internet provided by the Internet Superpowers and think that Net Neutrality doesn't matter and post nonsensical stuff like your latest Facebook update:- </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">RELATIONSHIP: ITS COMPLICATED</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And wonder why one of Facebook’s key metrics is ARPU (Yes, you got that right - Average Revenue Per User).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Still think Net Neutrality is for foreigners?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Thanks & Regards<br class=""><br class="">Ali Hussein<br class=""><a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" class="">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><br class=""><br class=""><a href="tel:%2B254%20770%20906375" value="+254770906375" target="_blank" class="">+254 770 906375</a><br class="">Twitter: @AliHKassim</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Skype: Abu-Jomo</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class="">LinkedIn: http//<a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank" class="">ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br class="">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.alyhussein.com</a><br class=""></div>
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Liz Orembo via isoc <<a href="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke" target="_blank" class="">isoc@lists.my.co.ke</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Morning Grace, all,<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would say Internet in Kenya is still 'unregulated' when it comes to content filtering. I havent come across blocked sites, however, with the recent revelation of the Hacking team-Govt emails. We dont know what else the government has been upto.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Last year vodacom released a transparency report, but no data was revealed because of unclear legal position.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">The legal position is unclear regarding whether or not it would be 
lawful for Safaricom (Vodafone’s local associate operator) or Vodafone 
to disclose statistics related to agency and authority communications 
data demands.</blockquote></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.vodafone.com/content/sustainabilityreport/2014/index/operating_responsibly/privacy_and_security/law_enforcement/country_by_country.html#top" target="_blank" class=""><br class=""><br class="">http://www.vodafone.com/content/sustainabilityreport/2014/index/operating_responsibly/privacy_and_security/law_enforcement/country_by_country.html#top</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">Is it the same case with other service providers? and is it possible for us to seek clarification?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via isoc <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke" target="_blank" class="">isoc@lists.my.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Listers, </div><div class="">We hope you are all well post POTUS visit.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Due to the the national activities last week, we were not able to post the last issue for discussion. Many of you had requested for a discussion on openness of the Internet and so we shall tackle that today. You are also welcome to contribute to all the other discussion threads from last week as we gear up for the face to face KeIGF . </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial" class="">The idea of an open Internet is the idea
that the full resources of the Internet and means to operate on it are easily
accessible to all individuals and companies. This often includes ideas such as
net neutrality, open standards, transparency, lack of Internet censorship, and
low barriers to entry. We seek to answer questions like: how open is the
Internet in Kenya? Is Freedom of Speech Online encouraged or it is suppressed?
Are there examples of blocked websites in Kenya?  How easy is it to start
an Internet business in Kenya?</span></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
<span style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial" class="">Should Internet service provider (ISP)  be
allowed to speed up, slow down or block lawful Web traffic from getting to
where you, the customer, want it to go?</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
<span style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial" class="">Should ISPs like Orange or Safaricom demand payment
from content providers like Facebook or Google because these content providers
reap huge profit from the infrastructure provided by ISPs?</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
<span style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial" class="">What is the position of the regulator on net
neutrality? What is the position of service providers in Kenya on net
neutrality?</span></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class="">Over to you. </span></div><div class=""><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class="">Regards, </span></div><span class=""><font color="#888888" class="">-- <br class=""><div class="">Grace L.N. Mutung'u <br class="">Nairobi Kenya<br class="">Skype: gracebomu<br class="">Twitter: @Bomu<br class=""><br class=""><<a href="http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu" target="_blank" class="">http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu</a>><br class=""><br class=""></div>
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