<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2846">@ Ali,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2865"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2736">I think I am a social democrat aka "moderate capitalist" that is make money yes, but dont exploit the masses. Last time I argued this case Bob C thought I was a communist :-)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3235" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3236" dir="ltr">Anyway, your solution is perfect and yes, we dont need to break up Safcom as a company (it's not in my interest though obviously it is in Airtel's and other competitors :)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3237" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3309" dir="ltr">MPESA interoperability (publicly available APIs - for the geeks) is the "simple" answer. But try to approach that territory and you will start another war and with the Broadcasting war still simmering, I doubt that the regulator/ministry has the resources to fight on these two front simuoultaneously. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3731" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3689" dir="ltr">Safcom can and will chew them faster than the broadcasters are attempting to do. Think Equity and their thin-sim card strategy(read interoperability attempt) and how far they went :-)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3648" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3650" dir="ltr">walu.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3688" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_3238" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2650"><span></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2653" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2652" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2651" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2712" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424441886690_2709" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 20, 2015 4:37 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Should Safaricom be broken up as 'recommended' by Airtel?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv3653608579"><div><div>Walu</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Do you have some socialist leanings? :)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>There is a simple solution to dealing with the Mpesa dominance issue. Drive policy to ENFORCE interoperability. You kill that dependency very quickly.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Rwanda has done it successfully. Why can't we? after all it's a matter of national security.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>With interoperability I can switch seamlessly within the financial sector infrastructure without worrying. The government/Airtel/Orange/Kenya Bankers then drives awareness ala Digital Migration. :)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It's not rocket science and it doesn't require any breakup. :)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span style=""><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></div><span style=""><font></font></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">Skype: abu-jomo</span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">LinkedIn: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim"><span style="text-decoration:none;"></span></a></span></div><span style=""><font></font></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"></div><font><span style="">Blog: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.alyhussein.com/">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br clear="none"></font></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv3653608579yqt0297135266" id="yiv3653608579yqt37175"><div><br clear="none">On Feb 20, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3362">@Mwendwa - u mention some 2010 regulations on competition published by the Ministry of ICT. Not seen these regulations but I would be worried that the ministry of ICT is now publishing regulation - something that is the mandate of the Regulator. Ministry should stick to policy. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3502"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3504">Either way, the Law (as in the Constitution and the Acts are superior to the Regulations and so in case of conflict I would expect the latter to override)<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3282"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3506"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535">As for breaking up Safcom, I have always proposed we should given its giant state - even the might of MTN, Equity, Airtel combined will barely scratch its dominant position. The question is not so much that they have "earned" this position through hard work and innovation, the question is about creating backup positions for ourselves as a country. <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3894"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3896"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535">Think about it, if MPESA broke down today for more than 2hrs today, we might have street riots. This is good for Safaricom but not good for Kenyan stability -unless and until we have a reliable alternative of MPESA with similar magnitude we are literally a social bomb waiting to be triggered. Indeed if I was a foreign army wishing to attack Kenya, I will not target the barracks or statehouse, I will target MPESA.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_4018"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_4044"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535">Our success is has become our biggest liability and we must face that fact and begin to think around it constructively. Airtel is secondary in this conversation if you asked me. We should have had it on own volition.<br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535"></span><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3607"><span id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3535">walu.</span></div><br clear="none"> <div id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3286" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3285" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3284"> <hr id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3355" size="1"> <font id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3288" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:04 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Should Safaricom be broken up as 'recommended' by Airtel?<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv3653608579y_msg_container" id="yiv3653608579yui_3_16_0_1_1424435427568_3290"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv3653608579"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv3653608579gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3653608579qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3653608579yqt5038060252" id="yiv3653608579yqtfd17445"><div class="yiv3653608579gmail_quote">On 18 February 2015 at 15:22, WANGARI KABIRU via isoc <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke">isoc@lists.my.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3653608579gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><font size="3"><b>“The Kenya Information and Communications Act section 84W gives the
Communications Authority of Kenya powers to declare a service provider
to be dominant if their market share is at least 50 per cent of the
relevant gross market segment,” Mr Matiang’i noted. </b></font><br clear="none"></div><div></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear="none">Wangare, you have murdered the law, and read it out of context. </div><div class="yiv3653608579gmail_extra"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3653608579gmail_extra"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14.3999996185303px;"><div style="margin:0px 0px 20px;padding:0px;line-height:1.5em;">"The current regulation on competition, published by the ICT ministry in 2010, equates dominance to abuse of the market. The regulator says this makes it difficult to declare a licensee dominant considering that the threshold of proof of abuse is very high."</div></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14.3999996185303px;"></div><br clear="all"><div><div class="yiv3653608579gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">______________________<br clear="none">Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br clear="none"><br clear="none">"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson<div class="yiv3653608579yqt5038060252" id="yiv3653608579yqtfd29192"><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv3653608579yqt5038060252" id="yiv3653608579yqtfd27179">
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