<p dir="ltr">At one point many ppl didn't believe mpesa would be possible.. It took intervention from the late minister michuki.... </p>
<p dir="ltr">We r country used to being first in many things</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 29, 2015 2:59 PM, "Mark Kipyegon via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">From a technical standpoint how feasible is it to simply blacklist sites?<br>
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Clone sites and proxies exist to circumvent these blocks.<br>
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On 29/01/2015 14:48, Bernard Kioko via kictanet wrote:<br>
> James i posted a link where high court in UK ruled those same sites be<br>
> blocked by ISPs and that's happening.<br>
><br>
> What's ur comment on that?<br>
> On Jan 29, 2015 2:43 PM, "James Mbugua via kictanet" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Listers,<br>
>><br>
>> Hmm...I don't know why I get the feeling this is a case of throwing mud at<br>
>> the wall to see if it will stick.<br>
>><br>
>> ISPs have never been held liable for downloading illegal content anywhere<br>
>> in the world. From the get go let us dispense with that. Neither will they<br>
>> be found so in this case.<br>
>><br>
>> I remember vividly when Napster came out and also when Kazaa<br>
>> followed....groups went after the sites not the ISPs. To this day, it is<br>
>> piracy sites that even the FBI goes for not the likes of Comcast or AT$T.<br>
>> Data privacy does not allow you to start checking what your customer is<br>
>> downloading or uploading....this is not China and getting into that<br>
>> territory is very dangerous for people's rights.<br>
>><br>
>> Let these guys do the hard work and go for the piracy sites or sue NTSA<br>
>> for allowing bhang to be transported on our roads.<br>
>><br>
>> lol<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> James<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Davis Onsakia via kictanet <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Will be an interesting case to keep the eye on.<br>
>>><br>
>>> What is not in doubt is that the final ruling will set a very serious<br>
>>> precedent on how to deal with copyright issues when it comes to the Online<br>
>>> World.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best Regards,<br>
>>> Davis M Onsakia<br>
>>> "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the<br>
>>> shore for a very long time."<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 29 January 2015 at 13:46, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Reading from the article it says there is a list.<br>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:23 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Does Kenya have necessary laws, and do the copyright holders have a<br>
>>>>> list of infringing sites?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:04 Bernard Kioko <<a href="mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com">bkioko@bernsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-high-court-forces-big-isps-block-56-new-internet-piracy-websites.html" target="_blank">http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-high-court-forces-big-isps-block-56-new-internet-piracy-websites.html</a><br>
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015 12:51 PM, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Interesting case, though I wonder how ISPs allow people to allow<br>
>>>>>>> content illegally. Any one with some insight?<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Music-copyright-owners-illegal-downloads/-/539550/2605386/-/na4mbsz/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Music-copyright-owners-illegal-downloads/-/539550/2605386/-/na4mbsz/-/index.html</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
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