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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Adam good thoughts..especially <br></div><div><br></div><div>****"If Safaricom can sell LTE to the 1% and that makes enough money to pay
well for the spectrum license and GoK then uses that money for the USF
to build 3G towers in rural areas - then that's really great".</div><div><br><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><i><span>But then again Safcom is not a charity organisation and may rather pay out the profits to the shareholders (like me :-) rather than build extra 3G towers to remote non economic zones in Kenya.</span></i></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Those 3G towers would be built with the USF which would be topped-up by the license auction (or by dividends from a dedicated utility that runs the LTE towers).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">then<br><span></span></div><div dir="ltr">***"4G/LTE deployments aren't really that much more expensive than 3G as I understand it." <br></div><div dir="ltr"><i>I dont have the actual costs, but the fact is 4G/LTE base stations have a small footprint/radius compared to 3G, so you will require more base stations to cover larger areas/populations. More base stations more money hence the cost of service to the customer can only be higher.</i><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>For the near future, LTE and 3G are complementary (i.e. they would both be deployed simultaneously in overlapping networks) and costs to build out LTE would only be paid back by LTE users. Safaricom is smart enough to figure out the economics on this and I'm sure they wouldn't be deploying LTE in Nairobi/Mombasa if it didn't mean they would make more money over time.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div><div dir="ltr">*** The big difference is the 'cost' of the spectrum - which is whatever the market will bear. <br></div><div dir="ltr">actually cost of spectrum will be decided/or has been decided by the Regulator. But the point is, even if it was given away for free, or through trading there is no guarantee that the benefit will not be translated to the consumer.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I'm hoping they auction the spectrum or assign it to a heavily regulated tower operator that the MNOs can use. Proceeds would go to USF and to improving the backhaul infrastructure..</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><i>In summary, I guess my beef is not against the LTE technology( it is good, it is inevitable and it will be deployed). My point is that it will not address the high cost of communication and is not likely to address the bigger picture (getting everyone online). <br></i></div></div></div></blockquote><div>We agree in the end :-) LTE is indeed inevitable which in my experience is always a reason to just get started with it and develop expertise around the technology. It will be on every smartphone sold in about a year and building out a countrywide LTE network will take at least 2 years in Kenya.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><i></i></div><div dir="ltr"><i><br></i></div><div dir="ltr"><i>And yes, that is not Safaricom's problem but the Regulators problem. </i></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We all wish the regulators were stronger and more thoughtful.</div><div><br></div><div>Adam </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">walu.<br><div class="hm HOEnZb"> </div></div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div class="hm HOEnZb"> </div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div class="hm HOEnZb"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Adam Nelson <<a href="mailto:adam@varud.com" target="_blank">adam@varud.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:14 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] LTE/4G and the state of broadband and Universal Access in Kenya<br> </font> </div></div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr">Walu,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The best response to your article is in the comments:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"4G brings with it unique capabilities like VoLte with lean radio protocol stack...3G voice is only possible with forced 2G fall back..so we need 4G...one will not need 2 radio access types to obtain service...one lean 4G radio access is enough...the capex is also low given smaller equipment footprint..."</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>4G/LTE deployments aren't really that much more expensive than 3G as I understand it. The big difference is the 'cost' of the spectrum - which is whatever the market will bear. If Safaricom can sell LTE to the 1% and that makes enough money to pay well for the spectrum license and GoK then uses that money for the USF to build 3G towers in rural areas - then that's really great.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>What would be better is a decoupling of the tower system from the providers and then there can be a single LTE network run by a utility that rents space in a well regulated way to the MNOs ... but even though Rwanda is doing that, I don't see Kenya following in that path.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-Adam</div></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">--</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Kili - Cloud for Africa: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://kili.io/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">kili.io</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Musings:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://twitter.com/varud" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"> twitter.com/varud</a></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">More Musings: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://varud.com/" target="_blank">varud.com</a></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">About Adam: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson</a></div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear="none"><div>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br><br></div><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Mwendwa,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">It could have been easier to break down these important issues and perhaps allocate each 1-2days for feedback from Listers on each of the issues.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Otherwise my controversial LTE/4GE views are well captured here <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2335364/-/11xds36z/-/index.html" target="_blank">Despite low uptake of 3G internet, mobile companies want to roll out 4G</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="width:450px;font-family:'Georgia','Times','Times New Roman','serif';margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;background-color:#ffffff"><table style="width:450px;height:170px;display:block" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="8" rowspan="1" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px"> </div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="vertical-align:middle;width:168px;height:168px;background-color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="width:168px" align="center"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" 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</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><span></span></div><div>As for the USF challenges, I had assumed all was well following the gazettement of the new board members in June this year to the Commission in charge but open to hear more.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:44 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] LTE/4G and the state of broadband and Universal Access in Kenya<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><div><div><br clear="none">(Apologies for cross-posting)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Nothing is as great as high internet speed. That is the mantra on<br clear="none">Safaricom's 4G page (1). Safaricom's 4G/LTE service is the first of<br clear="none">its kind in the region and promises a browsing experience like never<br clear="none">before. Long Term Evolution (LTE) is a standard for wireless<br clear="none">communication of high-speed data for mobile phones and data<br clear="none">terminals.(2)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">To use LTE you need a 4G capable Device (phone/tablet/modem), Change<br clear="none">to a 4G enabled SIM card and be in an area covered by the 4G service<br clear="none">i.e. Some parts of Nairobi and Mombasa.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">With the rollout of 4G in some parts of Nairobi and Mombasa, we are<br clear="none">exploring the state of "real" broadband in Kenya, the cost to the<br clear="none">common citizen, and coverage. As we continue to privilege those of us<br clear="none">in urban areas, how are we catering for the interests and needs of the<br clear="none">marginalized?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">TESPOK in August issued a statement (3) advising it's members not to<br clear="none">pay Universal Service Fund (4) until they meet with the Communications<br clear="none">Authority Director General and ICT cabinet Secretary to clearly define<br clear="none">the procedures and processes of administering the 0.5% of operators'<br clear="none">annual revenues. What is the current state of USF in Kenya? Is it<br clear="none">operational? Is the 0.5% sufficient to have any impact in society?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Are the USF Council members (5) representative of the Internet<br clear="none">community in Kenya? Are all stakeholders interests taken into<br clear="none">consideration in forming the council? 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