<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dennis</div><div><br></div><div>You just laid out s good case for Multi-Stakeholderism :)</div><div><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"></p><font><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>My understanding of shared infrastructure is that government, specially local govt, found it very lucrative to make money from every provider laying infrastructure than to encourage them to share. <br><div><br></div><div>Having talked to some operators, infrastructure sharing challenges included:</div><div><ul><li>non-compatible standards on the fibre they wanted to share</li><li>exorbitant charges from some operators that defeated the purpose of infrastructure sharing</li><li>Initially, during the privatisation of Telkom Kenya, GoK ignored local investors who wanted the firm split into three, including an infrastructure arm. Instead, they preferred our much beloved foreign investors. To date, it has been a bitter pill and not the envisioned bed of roses (or perhaps it was, but with more thorns). Lesson here is to engage local investors as an important stakeholder - they do have local knowledge. Let's not leave them out this time round </li><li>There was the infamous South African company that tried to have their cake and eat it by trying to force customer to purchase more expensive services. They lost 60% of their business and eventually resulted in more infrastructure being laid. </li></ul><div>What they however agreed on was that if there was a duct, laid to standard, this could be leased at a competitive rate, and has capacity to carry a number of cables. </div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed Nov 19 2014 at 12:37:25 Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div>Dennis</div><div><br></div><div>I agree. Last mile should be left to the private sector. That's where value addition comes in. But infrastructure should be on a shared platform. I'm convinced of the wisdom of this...</div><div><br></div><div>As for the Nakuru WiFi debacle I can only utter these word:-</div><div><br></div><div>ITS OUR TIME TO EAT.</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><div><br></div><div>Regards <br><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></p><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><div><br>On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Ali, <br>On the other hand we have the Nakuru WiFi as a scenario of what happens when Government tries to get into last mile. <div><br></div><div>Some proposals such as the wholesale LTE network sound better. As I said, incentives play a critical role here, if we can find incentives ranging from tax eradication/tax subsidies. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed Nov 19 2014 at 11:25:54 Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dennis</div><div><br></div><div>With all due respect and as an ardent private sector supporter I don't think leaving ICT infrastructure entirely in the hands of ISPs is the right strategy. This calls for a solid Multi-Stakeholder (yes...that word again..) :) engagement roadmap. It's the only way we will have ubiquitous and inexpensive connectivity across the region.</div><div><br></div><div>Imagine if we had left the implementation of the undersea cable to telcos alone without government involvement. Let's give credit where its due. Despite pitfalls and hurdles and sometimes acrimonious relationships, the Multi-Stakeholder (although truth be told in this case I think it happened serendipitously as opposed to planned) engagement between the government and the private players is the reason for our relative success story in the internet space. And this should be celebrated. <br><br>Regards</div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></p><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br>On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I would have preferred GoK go the other way and instead provide services as a means of driving internet demand and bringing prices down eg digitising hospitals, schools and other services. <br><div><br></div><div>Infrastructure and internet provision should be left to ISPs. To drive competition here, encourage more players, remove tax on equipment and other incentives. </div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise, we may send Internet to a place where demand is low. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed Nov 19 2014 at 09:50:22 Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Emmanuel, can we have a proper evaluation on the current<br>
status of the ICT sector based on the point Ali pointed out , i<br>
suppose ICTA can help us on this , i know there are a couple of great<br>
initiatives but what have they helped us achieve?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
On 11/19/14, Emmanuel Khisa <<a href="mailto:oloo.khisa@googlemail.com" target="_blank">oloo.khisa@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I would give the GoK an A for PR but a D for implementation. Its<br>
> unfortunate that because of the fabulous PR everyone (the Fourth Estate<br>
> included) is holding the GoK with Kiddy gloves...We will wake up and<br>
> realise soon that we havent moved an inch from where Ndemo and Kibaki left<br>
> us...their own shortcomings notwithstanding..<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> + 1 to Ali Hussein.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> On 11/19/14, Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><u></u>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Bernard<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Commendable indeed. I think though sometimes the newspapers fill in<br>
>> stories<br>
>> > when they don't have anything else to report? The Americans have an<br>
>> > interesting word for it:-<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Silly Season.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I'd be more interested in in-depth pieces regarding our broadband<br>
>> strategy.<br>
>> > Here are a few pointers for journalists:-<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 1. What's the Status on the Broadband Strategy implementation?<br>
>> > 2. How has NOFBi affected our usage of broadband and has it had any<br>
>> Impact<br>
>> > in price reduction of connectivity?<br>
>> > 3. What's happening to the Universal Access Fund. Has the government<br>
>> acceded<br>
>> > to the telcos request for representation?<br>
>> > 4. What's the effect on the Broadband Strategy of Safaricom's<br>
>> announcement<br>
>> > of going it alone with the 4G rollout? Add the security tender to that<br>
>> > question.<br>
>> > 5. What's the real broadband penetration rate since the launch of the<br>
>> > National Broadband Strategy.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Lastly, I think the government's achievement so far in the ICT Sector<br>
>> > is<br>
>> a<br>
>> > mixed bag. I'd give them a B+ for achievement and a lot goes to the ICT<br>
>> > Ministry and the Presidency for continuing to highlight the importance<br>
>> > of<br>
>> > the sector and coordinating with other ministries and the region at<br>
>> large.<br>
>> > See:-<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://www.ttcanc.org/page.php?id=23" target="_blank">http://www.ttcanc.org/page.<u></u>php?id=23</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > As far as engagement with the ICT community at large I'd be circumspect<br>
>> if I<br>
>> > didn't say that the Ministry needs to up the game. Sometimes<br>
>> > perceptions<br>
>> > become reality. We are now entering the third year since this new<br>
>> > digital<br>
>> > government took over and I know that Dr. Matiang'i is doing a<br>
>> > commendable<br>
>> > job of engaging. However, I think the ministry's press office and other<br>
>> > authorities like the ICT Authority, and the CA could do a lot better. A<br>
>> new<br>
>> > strategy for community engagement?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Let's work towards a better ICT year in 2015 and beyond.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ali Hussein<br>
>> ><br>
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>> > have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein<br>
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>> > Sent from my iPad<br>
>> ><br>
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>> >><br>
>> <a href="http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000141723/state-rolls-out-sh225b-plan-to-improve-internet-speeds" target="_blank">http://www.standardmedia.co.<u></u>ke/business/article/<u></u>2000141723/state-rolls-out-<u></u>sh225b-plan-to-improve-<u></u>internet-speeds</a><br>
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