<div dir="ltr">@walu,<div><br></div><div>The technology definitely matters. Older routers used to take 2ms to forward a packet - now those numbers are much better. EDGE certainly has much higher latency than 3G (and 3G higher than 4G - although a congested 4G network could have higher latency compared to an underused 3G connection).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I did some experiments on this issue for a talk at the Southern Africa Network Operator Group a few months ago - a version of that deck is here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://speakerdeck.com/varud/hosting-mobile-apps-for-africa">https://speakerdeck.com/varud/hosting-mobile-apps-for-africa</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>For a typical site focused on Kenyan users like The Nation, most of the time spent by the user is waiting for the content to come from Europe to Mombasa, not from the cell tower to the 3G device.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I suspect that a group like The Nation could improve the number of impressions by a solid 20% simply by moving their content to a local provider. Having an LTE network would further boost the number of impressions for them. Since The Nation has no online subscription component and only earns money on an impression basis - this is simply money left on the table.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">@Kioko,<br>
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My understanding is that Latency is delay introduced by the active components (Switches, Routers, Servers, Congestion). This means that it really isn't a dictated by one function i.e the technology (2G, 3G, 4G, Fiber, Wimax, etc).<br>
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Put differently, I could be connected through a 4G link and my neighbour could be on a 3G link but depending on the "terrain" or network conditions towards our destined websites, the 3G guy may be enjoying better latencies.<br>
<br>
But this is splitting hairs - for the user, the Quality of Service (QoS) has moved beyond techincal details towards what is known as the total "user-experience", that includes non-technical issues like customer service.<br>
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On Tue, 8/26/14, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 8:32 AM<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
Well depends<br>
on what high speeds are. Remember 1 Mbps as offered by 3G is<br>
already defined as broadband, but may not offer the latency<br>
you need.<br>
On 25 Aug 2014 19:55,<br>
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Dennis,<br>
I am very tempted to Google this, but will go<br>
old-skool on this one.<br>
I know you could have a low speed - low latency<br>
network, but can you have a high speed - high latency<br>
network?<br>
Waithaka Ngigi<br>
Alliance Technologies<br>
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On 25 Aug 2014 18:41,<br>
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wrote:<br>
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<br>
But 4G is not only about higher speeds, but<br>
lower latencies too. Therefore applications that require low<br>
latency might find 4G to be of benefit on that front.<br>
On 25 Aug 2014 16:56,<br>
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<br>
It would be most welcome if having 4G will<br>
lower data prices. Then again, I doubt the number of users<br>
who require 4G is that significant.<br>
<br>
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August 2014 16:52, Mark Mwangi <<a href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I am an advocate for tech all the way but would<br>
first ask why all the fuss with 4G? Have we maxed out the 3G<br>
bandwidth and have we put in place enough fiber to the<br>
building already in existence? <br>
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This rush for the newest and the greatest tech is not<br>
after solving problems but earning the likes of Huawei money<br>
with little value. <br>
I<br>
understand that Safaricom faced similar questions when<br>
launching 3G and are currently the only one testing 4G and<br>
so I may eat my words soon enough. I still think we should<br>
be laying more fiber to homes and offices rather than fight<br>
for spectrum. <br>
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On Mon, Aug 25,<br>
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Hi<br>
Adam,<br>
Kenyans are known for<br>
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thinking & behaving like one:)<br>
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CAK is doing the right thing, but bedevilled by<br>
political forces in the bg.<br>
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It seems<br>
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tell if they have weak lawyers or if the court is just<br>
confused or if the rights-holders of the analog spectrum<br>
really are being violated.<br>
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But while we wait, other<br>
countries in the region are moving forward. The big<br>
problem is that LTE deployment (and digital-only terrestrial<br>
TV) takes time and the longer we wait for the start, the<br>
further away we are from getting meaningful value out of the<br>
transition moving ahead.<br>
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On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
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I figured somebody on this list would have the latest<br>
update.<br>
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~~~~<br>
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True that Adam.<br>
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<br>
Only problem is that the Gava /Regulator folks have gone<br>
awfully quiet in recent times..even our ever-ready Wambua of<br>
the CCK fame has not said anything since they became CAK<br>
:-)<br>
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Or perhaps since since we have sued them left, right and<br>
center, they are unable to comment on matters before the<br>
Bench (it can always be used against you).<br>
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Subject: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
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Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:59 AM<br>
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<br>
Looks like Rwanda is<br>
<br>
about to launch LTE:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508" target="_blank">http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508</a><br>
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<br>
<br>
Any updates on Kenya? Aside from Burundi, Kenya<br>
<br>
looks set to be the last to launch the service in the<br>
East<br>
<br>
African Community.<br>
<br>
The last I heard, the Supreme Court blocked the<br>
<br>
disabling of the analog signals which need to be shut<br>
down<br>
<br>
in order to free up spectrum. In addition, KDF has alot<br>
of<br>
<br>
spectrum that they've been holding onto as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I figured somebody on this list would have the<br>
<br>
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