<div dir="ltr"><div>Mwendwa,<br><br></div>It interesting to note that Computer Society of Kenya has been around for over 27 years(since 1986). As @jwalu puts it in his article, by virtue of having been instituted by an Act of Parliament, the other statutory bodies seam to have an upper hand. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That is a good link @jwalu for British Computer Society. I thought our<br>
Computer Society of Kenya does play the same role as BCS, therefore we<br>
have representation! Is that the case?<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
On 07/05/2014, Walubengo J via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> @Judy,<br>
><br>
> +1<br>
><br>
> I noted some unfounded "fears" about such a body on the Nation blog. The<br>
> proposed professional body is not in anyway intended to stop youngsters from<br>
> coding solutions. Particularly because most major inventions in IT were<br>
> done by student folks in Universities - who never belonged to any<br>
> professional body.<br>
><br>
> The main idea of the body is to provide a single-source of engagement with<br>
> government, industry, civil society or any other group wishing to tap into a<br>
> collective position on major ICT matters of public concern. Without this we<br>
> are just a tower of (many) Babels - as noted by Ali.<br>
><br>
> Meanwhile @Njogu, UK has indeed such a group<br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society</a>. The US does not<br>
> exactly have it but has the role catered for. Check out<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> walu.<br>
><br>
> --------------------------------------------<br>
> On Wed, 5/7/14, Judy M. Muli via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 4:01 PM<br>
><br>
> Hello,Lawrence, that sounds like<br>
> a serious research topic right there; Concept paper<br>
> coming right up!With all the earlier mentioned<br>
> Professional institutions (ICPAK, Engineers, e.t.c) it<br>
> borders on Minimum necessary professional Qualifications,<br>
> Continuous professional development in the sector, among<br>
> others;<br>
> For starters we just need to identify the<br>
> Minimum necessary professional qualifications<br>
> : Kind<br>
> regards,Judy<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Lawrence Njogu via kictanet<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Even in the<br>
> developed world, ICT does not have an internationally<br>
> accepted lobby group or aggregation body of knowledge. The<br>
> first step would be to clearly define the core body of<br>
> knowledge outlining the foundational knowledge for specific<br>
> subject domain(s) or professions with ICT. They would<br>
> outline a set of "core" knowledge underlying the<br>
> specialist or specialty<br>
> knowledge within ICT. Then you could possibly have an<br>
> umbrella body that brings the various domains into a<br>
> congregate/communal lobby group.<br>
><br>
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:37:38<br>
> +0300<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for<br>
> the ICT professionals in Kenya?<br>
><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:lnjogu@hotmail.com">lnjogu@hotmail.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> Its not so easy like lawyers or<br>
> doctors as ict proffessionals dobt have a core trade. Is<br>
> there a single set of skklls that an ICT proffessional<br>
> requires that he can operate with without<br>
> specialization?<br>
><br>
> On May 6, 2014 4:29 PM, "Ali Hussein via<br>
> kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Grace<br>
> Thanks for bringing this<br>
> up.<br>
> Walu, thanks for<br>
> the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not<br>
> sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both?<br>
> There are various moribund associations that purport to<br>
> represent ICT in the country. And some new ones that seem to<br>
> be getting some traction.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Maybe that's why the<br>
> government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of<br>
> Babel?<br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Ali<br>
> Hussein<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="tel:%2B254%20770%20906375" value="+254770906375">+254 770 906375</a> / <a href="tel:0713%20601113" value="+254713601113">0713 601113</a><br>
><br>
> Twitter:<br>
> @AliHKassim<br>
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><br>
> Blog: <a href="http://www.alyhussein.com" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> "I<br>
> fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The<br>
> world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert<br>
> Einstein<br>
> Sent<br>
> from my iPad<br>
><br>
><br>
> On May 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Grace<br>
> Githaiga via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The<br>
> lawyers have the Law Society of<br>
> Kenya (LSK),<br>
> the engineers have the Engineers Board<br>
> of Kenya (EBK)<br>
> the doctors have the Kenya<br>
> Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board,<br>
> the media professionals have the Media Council<br>
> of Kenya while<br>
> the accountants have ICPAK.<br>
> But who speaks for the ICT professionals in<br>
> Kenya?<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html</a><br>
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