<p dir="ltr">Hey Ray,</p>
<p dir="ltr">MTN Business Kenya offers the best cloud services which can be compared to Amozon one.</p>
<p dir="ltr">You can reach me on 0722922852 for further details. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards, <br>
James</p>
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From: "Ken Mwaura" <<a href="mailto:mwaura.kenn@gmail.com">mwaura.kenn@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi Ray,<br>
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Gestalt Gild offers hosting services, we have our data center in Nairobi.<br>
I'll be pleased to guide you through the service off list. We schedule for a<br>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:18 PM<br>
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Subject: [kictanet] Hosting options for kenya<br>
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Hello Friends<br>
<br>
I am looking for some help from experts in this list, I have a content rich<br>
website which will be used by users in kenya.<br>
<br>
Can you suggest me where I can host it? Rates I got from safaricom is very<br>
high.<br>
<br>
Is there any cloud service which I can use and rates are comparable to<br>
amazon.<br>
<br>
Critical points are me<br>
<br>
1. As it is content base site so data transfer will be very high 2. Latency<br>
is critical factor 3. Uptime<br>
<br>
Which countries has direct pipe connection with kenya?<br>
<br>
I am looking for cost effective prices either in kenya or data centers which<br>
are directly connected with kenya.<br>
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Please help.<br>
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Regards<br>
Ray<br>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:36:14 +0300<br>
From: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
To: Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:D121D843-006C-46C6-8F6B-1F0F0B953F07@hussein.me.ke">D121D843-006C-46C6-8F6B-1F0F0B953F07@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
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@Walu<br>
<br>
We are saying the same thing really...<br>
<br>
My point being that everyone is looking at Safaricom as this omnipresent being yet they are not really..<br>
<br>
The time has come for the competition to stop running under the skirts of the Regulator every time Safaricom coughs..<br>
<br>
Ali Hussein<br>
<br>
<a href="tel:%2B254%200770%20906375" value="+254770906375">+254 0770 906375</a>�/ <a href="tel:0713%20601113" value="+254713601113">0713 601113</a><br>
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". �~ Albert Einstein<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> @Ali,<br>
><br>
> I think you are refusing to see �the efficacy of MPESA in the Safaricom ecosystem. Whereas Voice still contributes their largest profit percentages, this voice market is glued �together around the MPESA product.<br>
><br>
> Think Microsoft of the last decade. �Why was their applications so successful (MS-Word, MS-Excel, MS-Exchange, etc)? �Because they were build around their fairly universal and monopolistic Operating System (MS-Windows). �In todays world of tablets and Smartphones and CloudComputing, �the Operating system of choice has changed (from Microsoft to Android, �iOS and CloudServices i.e. TCP/IP).<br>
><br>
> Suddenly Microsoft finds itself exposed on their product lines (Word, Excel, etc) because they have lost the monopoly of the Operating System. �Same thing with Safcom. �You expose MPESA to real competition, you break their stronghold on the Voice and other data services. �That is what �I blogged about @<a href="http://tiny.cc/3o36bx" target="_blank">http://tiny.cc/3o36bx</a> (thnx GG for sharing :-)<br>
><br>
> Safaricom is clever (that is why they are no. 1) �and one can see from their recent industry moves that they are reacting appropriately. �What I dont know is if CCK can also their overall game plan and what it means for the industry. Sorry, let me rephrase that - I think CCK can also see the Safaricom game plan, but I am still not sure they have the "oomph" to intervene one way or the other.<br>
><br>
> At this point in time, the game has moved from being "technical", gone through being "economical" and we are now at the stage where the big boys(where are the girls :-() in politics are receiving calls from interested parties on which way the game should end. I dont have moles way up there but ladies and gentlemen this discussion (Yu acquisition) must now at a the Politcal layer.<br>
><br>
> You and I can only wait and see - and run to court if we feel aggrieved by the final decisions taken.<br>
><br>
> walu.<br>
> --------------------------------------------<br>
> On Tue, 3/4/14, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014, 1:42 PM<br>
><br>
> Edith<br>
> +1.<br>
> Mark, sometimes regulatory action is used as a<br>
> weapon when one has been unable to compete. My take is that<br>
> Mpesa isn't yet the bread and butter of Safaricom. The<br>
> greatest value it has is in its network effect. I suspect<br>
> that Safaricom is already on the hunt for the next big<br>
> thing. They are building out WiMAX networks, engaging<br>
> businesses for computing needs etc. This boring stuff is<br>
> where the money is.<br>
> My take? CAK (CCK) needs to stand down on this<br>
> one and let the market take its course. After all what else<br>
> does the competition need to be done for them to compete<br>
> with Safaricom? Share out subscribers through legislation? I<br>
> think this isn't a perfect market but the regulator here<br>
> is doing an ok job..<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
> +254 0770<br>
> 906375 /<a href="tel:%200713%20601113" value="+254713601113"> 0713 601113</a><br>
> "I fear the day technology will<br>
> surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation<br>
> of idiots". �~ Albert Einstein<br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Mark and<br>
> Listers,<br>
><br>
> If I were Safaricom, I would do exactly what they are<br>
> doing and MORE! That is the nature of competition!<br>
> But if the consumer behaved differently.....aka<br>
> "rational consumer behaviour"......would the<br>
> competition hold? ....I dont think for long!<br>
><br>
> Edith<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Mark Mwangi [<a href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:33 AM<br>
> To: Edith Adera<br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to<br>
> regulator<br>
><br>
> @Edith the reason it doesn't work here is because<br>
> of arrogance or incompetence by the competition. There is no<br>
> reason as to why the small players have not ganged up and<br>
> built joint infrastructure like 3G networks to rival<br>
> Safaricom. I have always said hey should push for twin sim<br>
> phones to make space on peoples phones but the tend to think<br>
> selling galaxy phones will translate to profits.<br>
><br>
> Look at Orange. They should have a monopoly on the<br>
> iPhone game but now Safaricom sell iPhone too.<br>
><br>
> Airtel treat clients like they are doing hem a favour<br>
> right from the Kencell days. I don't know what Yu's<br>
> strategy was.<br>
><br>
> @Dennis and @Ali I think this is a bad deal and the<br>
> regulator shouldn't allow it. It will further constrict<br>
> choice and thus make a mockery of the license grant in the<br>
> first place.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> BIG QUESTION<br>
> Why can't Kenya sustain a "multi player"<br>
> environment? �Ive argued for years that it has to do<br>
> with peculiar "consumer behaviour" of Kenyans.<br>
> Open competition has not worked, number portability has not<br>
> worked.....what will sustain a vibrant multi player<br>
> environment?<br>
><br>
> I've just returned from Ghana where the 4+ players<br>
> have all sorts of offerings whooing consumers left, right<br>
> and centre...you have all sorts of incentives that seems to<br>
> keep all players afloat....number portability works etc<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> Why not Kenya?<br>
><br>
> What's your take?<br>
><br>
> Edith<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=<a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>]<br>
> on behalf of Ali Hussein [<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 11:47 PM<br>
> To: Edith Adera<br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to<br>
> regulator<br>
><br>
> Dennis<br>
><br>
> Couldn't agree with you more.<br>
><br>
> In this particular case the regulator will do best to<br>
> stand down and let market forces play out.<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
><br>
> <a href="tel:%2B254%200770%20906375" value="+254770906375">+254 0770 906375</a><tel:%2B254%200770%20906375> /<br>
> <a href="tel:0713%20601113" value="+254713601113">0713 601113</a><tel:0713%20601113><br>
><br>
> "I fear the day technology will surpass human<br>
> interaction. The world will have a generation of<br>
> idiots". �~ Albert Einstein<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> I thought Kenya was a liberal country, what's with<br>
> everyone wanting to place regulatory hurdles on Yu's<br>
> exit.<br>
><br>
> Biggest issue is Safaricom's acquisition of<br>
> spectrum belonging to YU and thus putting more spectrum<br>
> under them - which they badly need to improve network<br>
> quality in urban areas which suffer from congestion.<br>
><br>
> Industry analysts have long predicted consolidation of<br>
> MNOs in African countries to 3 or 4 per country (see an<br>
> interview I did with Coleago in December <a href="http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/coleago's-chris-gives-insights-on-lte-network-sharing,-spectrum,-future-and-regulation-of-africa-telecoms#" target="_blank">http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/coleago's-chris-gives-insights-on-lte-network-sharing,-spectrum,-future-and-regulation-of-africa-telecoms#</a><br>
> )<br>
><br>
> The buy out paves the way for licensing of MVNOs,<br>
> which have an advantage of sharing existing capacity and<br>
> unutilised resources rather than building out whole networks<br>
> again.<br>
><br>
> On 4 Mar 2014 05:32, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> Listers<br>
><br>
> Yu has been bleeding red ink since it launched. It was<br>
> inevitable. No public review will change that. The Network<br>
> Effect is clearly at play here with Safaricom. None of the<br>
> other players are profitable. Orange is being kept afloat by<br>
> GoK and the mother company in France. Airtel considers Kenya<br>
> a loss leader because of its 'strategic' nature in<br>
> Africa and hence cannot abandon it. Not sure how long that<br>
> will continue.<br>
><br>
> The interesting bit here is that Orange may eventually<br>
> buy Safaricom because of some actions in far off cities that<br>
> we have no control over...that for me is the real<br>
> risk..<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
><br>
> +254 0770<br>
> 906375<tel:%2B254%200770%20906375><tel:%2B254%200770%20906375><br>
> / 0713<br>
> 601113<tel:0713%20601113><tel:0713%20601113><br>
><br>
> "I fear the day technology will surpass human<br>
> interaction. The world will have a generation of<br>
> idiots". �~ Albert Einstein<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
> On Mar 3, 2014, at 11:20 PM, ICT Researcher <<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> For starters, the company's assets true worth need<br>
> to be independently established and its outstanding<br>
> liabilities audited. Mere reported "spend a combined<br>
> $100 million" inflated with 'sweatheart deal'<br>
> exit premium does not in any way reflect the much lower true<br>
> worth of the exiting business persons which no doubt a<br>
> consortium of Kenyans investors can raise and potentially<br>
> enable consumers to migrate enmasse to 100 p.c. "MKenya<br>
> Network":-)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:44 PM, "Wambua,<br>
> Christopher" <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> The regulator has just received the application. We<br>
> are in the process of reviewing the application with a view<br>
> to deciding the way forward. �It is therefore too early<br>
> to subject the application to public consultation.<br>
><br>
> Wambua<br>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.<br>
> From: ICT Researcher<br>
> Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 21:11 PM<br>
> To: Wambua, Christopher<br>
> Reply To: ICT Researcher<br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to<br>
> regulator<br>
><br>
><br>
> Airtel, Safaricom seek to buy Essar?s Yu in Kenya -<br>
> Safaricom will get Yu?s infrastructure, while Airtel is<br>
> expected to acquire Yu?s subscriber base <<a href="http://www.livemint.com/Industry/BZZuR21BJsoJf6jksBhnVN/Airtel-Safaricom-seek-to-buy-Kenyan-rival-Essars-Yu.html" target="_blank">http://www.livemint.com/Industry/BZZuR21BJsoJf6jksBhnVN/Airtel-Safaricom-seek-to-buy-Kenyan-rival-Essars-Yu.html</a>><br>
><br>
> Considering the profoundly adverse Triopoly consumer<br>
> choice consequences,<br>
> Should the regulator not initiate a public<br>
> consultation before decision making?<br>
><br>
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