<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Edith</div><div><br></div><div>+1.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark, sometimes regulatory action is used as a weapon when one has been unable to compete. My take is that Mpesa isn't yet the bread and butter of Safaricom. The greatest value it has is in its network effect. I suspect that Safaricom is already on the hunt for the next big thing. They are building out WiMAX networks, engaging businesses for computing needs etc. This boring stuff is where the money is.</div><div><br></div><div>My take? CAK (CCK) needs to stand down on this one and let the market take its course. After all what else does the competition need to be done for them to compete with Safaricom? Share out subscribers through legislation? I think this isn't a perfect market but the regulator here is doing an ok job.. <br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Mark and Listers,</span><br><span></span><br><span>If I were Safaricom, I would do exactly what they are doing and MORE! That is the nature of competition! </span><br><span>But if the consumer behaved differently.....aka "rational consumer behaviour"......would the competition hold? ....I dont think for long!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Edith</span><br><span>________________________________________</span><br><span>From: Mark Mwangi [<a href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>]</span><br><span>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:33 AM</span><br><span>To: Edith Adera</span><br><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator</span><br><span></span><br><span>@Edith the reason it doesn't work here is because of arrogance or incompetence by the competition. There is no reason as to why the small players have not ganged up and built joint infrastructure like 3G networks to rival Safaricom. I have always said hey should push for twin sim phones to make space on peoples phones but the tend to think selling galaxy phones will translate to profits.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Look at Orange. They should have a monopoly on the iPhone game but now Safaricom sell iPhone too.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Airtel treat clients like they are doing hem a favour right from the Kencell days. I don't know what Yu's strategy was.</span><br><span></span><br><span>@Dennis and @Ali I think this is a bad deal and the regulator shouldn't allow it. It will further constrict choice and thus make a mockery of the license grant in the first place.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a><<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">mailto:eadera@idrc.ca</a>>> wrote:</span><br><span>BIG QUESTION</span><br><span>Why can't Kenya sustain a "multi player" environment? Ive argued for years that it has to do with peculiar "consumer behaviour" of Kenyans. Open competition has not worked, number portability has not worked.....what will sustain a vibrant multi player environment?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I've just returned from Ghana where the 4+ players have all sorts of offerings whooing consumers left, right and centre...you have all sorts of incentives that seems to keep all players afloat....number portability works etc etc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Why not Kenya?</span><br><span></span><br><span>What's your take?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Edith</span><br><span>________________________________________</span><br><span>From: kictanet [<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>] on behalf of Ali Hussein [<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke</a>>]</span><br><span>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 11:47 PM</span><br><span>To: Edith Adera</span><br><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dennis</span><br><span></span><br><span>Couldn't agree with you more.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In this particular case the regulator will do best to stand down and let market forces play out.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ali Hussein</span><br><span></span><br><span>+254 0770 906375<tel:%2B254%200770%20906375> / 0713 601113<tel:0713%20601113></span><br><span></span><br><span>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I thought Kenya was a liberal country, what's with everyone wanting to place regulatory hurdles on Yu's exit.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Biggest issue is Safaricom's acquisition of spectrum belonging to YU and thus putting more spectrum under them - which they badly need to improve network quality in urban areas which suffer from congestion.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Industry analysts have long predicted consolidation of MNOs in African countries to 3 or 4 per country (see an interview I did with Coleago in December <a href="http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/coleago's-chris-gives-insights-on-lte-network-sharing,-spectrum,-future-and-regulation-of-africa-telecoms#">http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/coleago's-chris-gives-insights-on-lte-network-sharing,-spectrum,-future-and-regulation-of-africa-telecoms#</a> )</span><br><span></span><br><span>The buy out paves the way for licensing of MVNOs, which have an advantage of sharing existing capacity and unutilised resources rather than building out whole networks again.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 4 Mar 2014 05:32, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke</a><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke</a>>>> wrote:</span><br><span>Listers</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yu has been bleeding red ink since it launched. It was inevitable. No public review will change that. The Network Effect is clearly at play here with Safaricom. None of the other players are profitable. Orange is being kept afloat by GoK and the mother company in France. Airtel considers Kenya a loss leader because of its 'strategic' nature in Africa and hence cannot abandon it. Not sure how long that will continue.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The interesting bit here is that Orange may eventually buy Safaricom because of some actions in far off cities that we have no control over...that for me is the real risk..</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ali Hussein</span><br><span></span><br><span>+254 0770 906375<tel:%2B254%200770%20906375><tel:%2B254%200770%20906375> / 0713 601113<tel:0713%20601113><tel:0713%20601113></span><br><span></span><br><span>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mar 3, 2014, at 11:20 PM, ICT Researcher <<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com">mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>>>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span>For starters, the company's assets true worth need to be independently established and its outstanding liabilities audited. Mere reported "spend a combined $100 million" inflated with 'sweatheart deal' exit premium does not in any way reflect the much lower true worth of the exiting business persons which no doubt a consortium of Kenyans investors can raise and potentially enable consumers to migrate enmasse to 100 p.c. "MKenya Network":-)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:44 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a><<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>><<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke</a><<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>>>> wrote:</span><br><span>The regulator has just received the application. We are in the process of reviewing the application with a view to deciding the way forward. It is therefore too early to subject the application to public consultation.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Wambua</span><br><span>Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</span><br><span>From: ICT Researcher</span><br><span>Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 21:11 PM</span><br><span>To: Wambua, Christopher</span><br><span>Reply To: ICT Researcher</span><br><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</span><br><span>Subject: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Airtel, Safaricom seek to buy Essar’s Yu in Kenya - Safaricom will get Yu’s infrastructure, while Airtel is expected to acquire Yu’s subscriber base <<a href="http://www.livemint.com/Industry/BZZuR21BJsoJf6jksBhnVN/Airtel-Safaricom-seek-to-buy-Kenyan-rival-Essars-Yu.html">http://www.livemint.com/Industry/BZZuR21BJsoJf6jksBhnVN/Airtel-Safaricom-seek-to-buy-Kenyan-rival-Essars-Yu.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>Considering the profoundly adverse Triopoly consumer choice consequences,</span><br><span>Should the regulator not initiate a public consultation before decision making?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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