<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Listers</div><div><br></div><div>Lost in all this discussion about safety and payment systems in public transport is that:-</div><div><br></div><div>1. Any country worth its salt and geared for growth prioritizes public transport as a critical resource for growth. </div><div><br></div><div>2. In most of the 'developed' world public transport is not left entirely to the vagaries of private enterprise. These are concessions that are tendered out every 5-10 years and the winner(s) of the concession is subject to clear QoS standards and fares are preset by both the Govt and the concessionaire. The UK has done this pretty successfully. </div><div><br></div><div>3. A look at Dubai will tell you that the RTA (Road Transport Authority) owns and manages the Metro, the Taxis and the buses which have an interoperable payment system. And the system works like a well oiled machine.</div><div><br></div><div>The million dollar question is whether we have the political will to overhaul our mass transport systems.</div><div><br></div><div>Over the holidays my sister and her kids insisted they wanted to go to Mombasa via train. I asked them severally if they were sure about this. After an argument of pros and cons we finally bought them tickets and they embarked on their 'adventure'. A number of things stood out for me:-</div><div><br></div><div>1. The road leading to the train station could be categorized more as the surface of the moon than a road.</div><div>2. The train station is like it is in a time capsule circa 1985 when I used to go via train from Mombasa to Nairobi to boarding school. I swear to God that the station has not improved one bit. It's like it was when the British built it!!</div><div>3. Lastly it took my family 24 hours (yes 24 hours!!) to reach Mombasa when it took me about 11 hours in 1985!! </div><div><br></div><div><div>I'm not saying that this talk about payment systems and interoperability isn't progress but..</div></div><div><br></div><div>Are we putting the cart before the horse?? Are we band aiding a cancer when what we need is chemotherapy? </div><div><br></div><div>Just saying..</div><div><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 6, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Baiju Shah <<a href="mailto:baiju@tele2media.com">baiju@tele2media.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Hi All,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Very interesting discussion on new policy, in fact the government should consider the implementation of a single standard for payments like ITSO in the UK to provide interoperability between different modes of transport. e.g. If I use the train, matatu to get to work I should be able to buy or load a ticket on to a card, mobile phone or any other, which could be easily accepted by the different modes of transport operators. </span><br><span></span><br><span>This will also enable some amount of regulation and discipline within the modal transport operators who could be measured on quality of service. This could also include behaviour on the road. Simple matrix could be developed, to provide the quality of transport that is available in many cities around the world. This also is away to ensure that the government is able to assure safety, in return be able to collect taxes to improve facilities for the commuters that could include footpaths and proper rest areas etc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Furthermore, not too sure of the fleet management aspect of the policy as this is something that individual companies can choose to implement, is open to manipulation, this will not guarantee that the different companies are meeting their stated KPI's, and there is no way you can penalise the PSV it could be too late, additionally, all PSV drivers need to retest and get issued with proper driving licences that are not subject to fraud as a part of the regulation of the sector. </span><br><span></span><br><span>There are many points that could be discussed, the important point is there is action being taken and if there is help required in thinking through the various policies and if it is going to make the daily commute easy we are here to help and advice.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks</span><br><span></span><br><span>Best Regards,</span><br><span>Baiju Shah</span><br><span>Telemedia Africa Ltd</span><br><span>Tel. 0787332247 / 0701691570</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2014, at 19:29, <a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Send kictanet mailing list submissions to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="mailto:kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Today's Topics:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1. Re: PSVs required to fit cameras, implement cashless payment,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> and fleet management systems (Mark Mwangi)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 2. Re: PSVs required to fit cameras, implement cashless payment,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> and fleet management systems (Watila Alex)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 3. Re: PSVs required to fit cameras, implement cashless payment,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> and fleet management systems (kris njoroge)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:58:02 +0300</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Mark Mwangi <<a href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] PSVs required to fit cameras, implement</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> cashless payment, and fleet management systems</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:CAH5fjchpP=MpWeZHUEu1_q35_dpvCse9r5P4icuWPVHE-9uGsw@mail.gmail.com">CAH5fjchpP=MpWeZHUEu1_q35_dpvCse9r5P4icuWPVHE-9uGsw@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I agree with the scheduling bit though i don't see how this can be divorced</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from the fares. I still insist transport should be primarily a govt affair.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If not by ownership then by strict regulation inclusive of setting of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fares, just like in Energy. if let loose we have the likes of Enron and our</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>matatu culture as is. Some sectors cannot be left to market forces because</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>market forces are largely an idyllic situation and manipulated to the core.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Digital Speed Governors aka Tachographs are a good idea.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We could start with that, get matatus on regular timed schedules, then</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>start selling electronic tickets for day, week & month, yearly. This you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pay for using Mpesa etc, but spot fares should be in cash.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Waithaka Ngigi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alliance Technologies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.A1.io">www.A1.io</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>will take effect by June 2014 where</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>crimes, and terrorism</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Install digital speed governors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for the services.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>205 Billion industry</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html">http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>______________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mark Mwangi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>markmwangi.me.ke</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140105/8756c067/attachment-0001.html">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140105/8756c067/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 2</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:33:58 +0300</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Watila Alex <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] PSVs required to fit cameras, implement</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> cashless payment, and fleet management systems</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:52C97B66.9010006@yahoo.co.uk">52C97B66.9010006@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>smartbus tried cashless payments and they were always getting network </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>errors.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is the required infrastructure in place and is it reliable enough to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>work all the time?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alex</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 01/05/2014 02:00 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The hubris of those in power...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>form of payment over others a violation of our rights to use The </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kenyan Currency in our transactions?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Waithaka Ngigi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alliance Technologies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.A1.io">www.A1.io</a> <<a href="http://www.A1.io">http://www.A1.io</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> will take effect by June 2014 where</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> crimes, and terrorism</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 4. Install digital speed governors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> for the services.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 205 Billion industry</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html">http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> --</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ______________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a> <<a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh">http://twitter.com/lordmwesh</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> kenya.or.ke <<a href="http://kenya.or.ke">http://kenya.or.ke</a>> | The Kenya we know</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140105/1b020155/attachment-0001.html">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140105/1b020155/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 3</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:21:12 +0100</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: kris njoroge <<a href="mailto:krsnjo@gmail.com">krsnjo@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] PSVs required to fit cameras, implement</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> cashless payment, and fleet management systems</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:CAK37A+KCp=PvS1hVqB-qT196srAty0n-U8LsuNuOgKGiLBDtqQ@mail.gmail.com">CAK37A+KCp=PvS1hVqB-qT196srAty0n-U8LsuNuOgKGiLBDtqQ@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I totally agree with Mark. Public transport has and should always be looked</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at as a service of the government to the masses. Cameras and payment</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>systems are just means of putting money into the pockets of a few companies</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or individuals and as such do not really help solve the problem. Think if</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the sector was run as a non profit (and in a sustainable manner) all would</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>leave there cars at home and use the system. As we move forward think the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thought of companies running the sector on commission of the government</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would also work. Auction off a licence 2-5 year to run the sector on behalf</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the gov or counties with well laid out goals and guidelines as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>benchmarks. Off course infrastructure has to be put in place first like bus</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>lanes everywhere, bus stops away from the main roads (thika rd and mombasa</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rd should not have bus stops) in short better planning.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Watila Alex <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>smartbus tried cashless payments and they were always getting network</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>errors.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is the required infrastructure in place and is it reliable enough to work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>all the time?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alex</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 01/05/2014 02:00 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The hubris of those in power...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain form of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>payment over others a violation of our rights to use The Kenyan Currency in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>our transactions?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Waithaka Ngigi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alliance Technologies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.A1.io">www.A1.io</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>will take effect by June 2014 where</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>crimes, and terrorism</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Install digital speed governors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for the services.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>205 Billion industry</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html">http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-sector/-/1950106/2134508/-/format/xhtml/-/5hut8qz/-/index.html</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>______________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. 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