<p><br>
On Dec 29, 2013 11:51 AM, "Wambua, Christopher" <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> But the same local firms that own the said infrastructure put in a bid that could not pass muster. Should CCK or the government for that matter also help them prepare bid documents?<br>
><br>
> As I indicated earlier, even restricted tenders require interested firms to meet certain basic requirements/criteria. It is really unfortunate when local firms with the required technical capacity to provide advertised licensable services lose out to foreign companies on the basis of failure to put in a convincing technical/business proposal. <br>
><br>
> I would not be surprised that the bid winners (foreign consortium ) may have used local consultants to prepare bids for them. <br>
><br>
> You raise an important policy issue here. But local firms also need to raise their socks in meeting the basic requirements for government tenders. <br>
><br>
2 simple questions are not being answered.</p>
<p>(I) Are Joint Ventures required between local and foreign firms, to develop local capacity?</p>
<p>(II) How do current procurement laws ensure local capacity is developed?</p>
<p>From a political point of view, we are aware campaign funds need to be raised or recovered by all or politicians.</p>
<p>How about from an ethical point of view? If we check this issue/greed, we reduce election related violence, where we kill for access/positions to auction public resources, while our villages/localities remain impoverished.</p>
<p>It is wisdom (the practice of good works) we lack, not human or physical resources.</p>
<p>> From: Kivuva<br>
> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:16 PM<br>
> To: Ngigi Waithaka<br>
> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling<br>
><br>
> On 29/12/2013, Ngigi Waithaka <<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> > The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here<br>
> > and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.<br>
> ><br>
> > We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers<br>
> > etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure<br>
> > equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available<br>
> > locally.<br>
> ><br>
> > That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect<br>
> > our already existing investments.<br>
> ><br>
> > Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on<br>
> > external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have<br>
> > one from amongst our own in place.<br>
><br>
> ++1 Waithaka.<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be<br>
> > made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut'<br>
> > is likewise larger.<br>
> ><br>
> > And how do you do that? Open Tender!<br>
> ><br>
> > Waithaka Ngigi<br>
> ><br>
> > Alliance Technologies<br>
> > Nairobi, Kenya<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.A1.io">www.A1.io</a><br>
> > On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <<a href="mailto:Mutua@cck.go.ke">Mutua@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different<br>
> >> consortiums of the local media that participated.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily<br>
> >> targeting local firms or local media for that matter.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there<br>
> >> are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor<br>
> >> one<br>
> >> was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that.<br>
> >><br>
> >> As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being<br>
> >> denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> *From*: S.M. Muraya [mailto:<a href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> >> *Sent*: Sunday, December 29, 2013 01:03 AM<br>
> >> *To*: Mutua, Muthusi<br>
> >> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> >> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital<br>
> >> Migration Ruling<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <<a href="mailto:Mutua@cck.go.ke">Mutua@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to<br>
> >>> demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This<br>
> >>> cannot,<br>
> >>> however, be used across the board even for services that don't require<br>
> >>> this<br>
> >>> kind of treatment.<br>
> >>><br>
> >><br>
> >> Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in<br>
> >> Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure<br>
> >> foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Note Euro vs China Policy:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for-business-4312244">http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for-business-4312244</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint<br>
> >> (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting<br>
> >> a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record<br>
> >> of<br>
> >> telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to<br>
> >> developing local talent and capabilities?<br>
> >><br>
> >> As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one<br>
> >>> local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these<br>
> >>> entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate<br>
> >> from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the<br>
> >> digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity<br>
> >> not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing<br>
> >> signal distribution.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to<br>
> >>> participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being<br>
> >>> barred<br>
> >>> from the process.<br>
> >>><br>
> >><br>
> >> If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar<br>
> >> contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are<br>
> >> correct.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>> As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the<br>
> >>> ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US<br>
> >>> examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional<br>
> >>> examples may even be more relevant to our situation.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> *From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:<a href="mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke">ngigi@at.co.ke</a>]<br>
> >>> *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM<br>
> >>> *To*: Watila Alex <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> >>> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<br>
> >>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> >>> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital<br>
> >>> Migration Ruling<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here<br>
> >>> <a href="http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm">http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm</a><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Key point<br>
> >>> "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002,<br>
> >>> recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team<br>
> >>> with<br>
> >>> a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> *..." *<br>
> >>> Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter<br>
> >>> in<br>
> >>> *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large<br>
> >>> conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win<br>
> >>> a<br>
> >>> large defense contract in the US against US firms.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Another interesting read here<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war/">http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war/</a><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Regards<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> >>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> finally accessed the task force report at<br>
> >>>> <a href="http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/">www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/</a><br>
> >>>> *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the<br>
> >>>> digital signal distribution<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> - The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on<br>
> >>>> an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory<br>
> >>>> basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal<br>
> >>>> distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on<br>
> >>>> broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors.<br>
> >>>> the<br>
> >>>> three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to<br>
> >>>> their<br>
> >>>> signal distribution company. *<br>
> >>>> - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out<br>
> >>>> by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since<br>
> >>>> the<br>
> >>>> existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in<br>
> >>>> infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this<br>
> >>>> investment<br>
> >>>> is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three<br>
> >>>> broadcasters.*<br>
> >>>> - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal<br>
> >>>> distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not<br>
> >>>> penetrate<br>
> >>>> to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal<br>
> >>>> distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the<br>
> >>>> spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to<br>
> >>>> upgrade<br>
> >>>> their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is<br>
> >>>> affordable to them*<br>
> >>>> - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated<br>
> >>>> transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for<br>
> >>>> digital<br>
> >>>> transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three<br>
> >>>> broadcasters.*<br>
> >>>> - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal<br>
> >>>> distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal<br>
> >>>> distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or<br>
> >>>> cross<br>
> >>>> subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned<br>
> >>>> company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in*<br>
> >>>> - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent<br>
> >>>> company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize<br>
> >>>> their<br>
> >>>> existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid<br>
> >>>> conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given<br>
> >>>> the<br>
> >>>> first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not<br>
> >>>> to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current<br>
> >>>> acrimony*<br>
> >>>> - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate<br>
> >>>> commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for<br>
> >>>> transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters<br>
> >>>> seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40<br>
> >>>> billion<br>
> >>>> kes" investment *<br>
> >>>> - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed<br>
> >>>> to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the<br>
> >>>> three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report<br>
> >>>> that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> --<br>
> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on<br>
> >>>> Android<<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android">http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android</a>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> ------------------------------<br>
> >>>> *From: *Watila Alex <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>> <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>>;<br>
> >>>> *To: *Wambua, Christopher <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>> <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>>;<br>
> >>>> *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <<a href="mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke">CPA@cck.go.ke</a>> <<a href="mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke">CPA@cck.go.ke</a>>;<br>
> >>>> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
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> >>>><br>
> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital<br>
> >>>> Migration Ruling<br>
> >>>> *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:59:06 PM<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> why was the number of signal distributors limited to two?<br>
> >>>> --<br>
> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on<br>
> >>>> Android<<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android">http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android</a>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> ------------------------------<br>
> >>>> *From: *Wambua, Christopher <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>> <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>>;<br>
> >>>> *To: *<<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>> <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>>;<br>
> >>>> *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <<a href="mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke">CPA@cck.go.ke</a>> <<a href="mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke">CPA@cck.go.ke</a>>;<br>
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> >>>><br>
> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital<br>
> >>>> Migration Ruling<br>
> >>>> *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM<br>
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