<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1 Yonah!</div><div><br></div><div>Integrated project management! I mean government must stop working is silos. </div><div><br></div><div>we have just commissioned a mega railway project, that will run all the to Kigali, this is a perfect opportunity for relevant cables and to drive penetration inland! </div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 7, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <<a href="mailto:zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com">zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">@Kivuva,<div><br></div><div>Here is an example when the elected miss it!</div><div><a href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/the-rise-and-fall-of-australias-44-billion-broadband-project/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120513/">http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/the-rise-and-fall-of-australias-44-billion-broadband-project/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120513/</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com" target="_blank">zaipuna.yonah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">@ Kivuva,<div><br></div><div>Well, lobbying may work, but it is a long process! The opportunity may not wait for you that long. Mind this: you are investing ahead of demand! So do this: try demanding the professionals at the responsible Ministries (those who formulate the projects) to stop thinking in Silos and think forward and long-term using integrated project planning! And make the Treasury guys to understand this! It is a pain we suffered and somehow solved the problem in Tanzania with our NICTBB. We know it works.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kivuva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Nice Question Bob, and it has been asked here by hardcore Kictaneters<br>
countless times with no solution offered.<br>
<br>
It’s alleged that in Japan, to add a new pair on the available duct, a<br>
motorcyclist runs through the duct with the cable tied to his tail.<br>
<br>
Bob, I had a discussion with a guy from Switzerland on how to<br>
influence policy, and his response was through direct lobbying the<br>
policy makers. That might be the answer to your great question. We<br>
develop an ICT infrastructure policy paper and feed-it through the<br>
bureaucracy until its made law.<br>
<br>
Remember, we are a developing country and you and I are part of the solution.<br>
<br>
Barrack, NOFBI will be a success when it’s leased to a strategic and<br>
forward thinking investor like Google. Just saying.<br>
<div><br>
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On 06/12/2013, James Kulubi <<a href="mailto:jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ducting usually accounts for over 60% of the cost of laying fibre-optic<br>
> cables. Just like any other communication system, the problem is not with<br>
> the links between towns which NOFBI addresses. The problem is with the last<br>
> mile, i.e links to homes and businesses. As result many jurisdictions are<br>
> conducting studies on the most efficient way to deliver broadband to homes<br>
> and businesses. The EU study of July 2012 is available<br>
</div>> herefor those who want to dig deeper into the matter.<br>
<div><div>><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Friday, 6 December 2013, 15:52, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I think NOFBI is just ready to be switched, we just need a little<br>
> inspiration and thoughtfullness going forwad now that economies depend on<br>
> the Internet.<br>
><br>
> Best Regards<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Bobs <<a href="mailto:omondibob@gmail.com" target="_blank">omondibob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Which could have been avoided if the road contractors had included this<br>
> element!<br>
>><br>
>>Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>>On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Philip Adar <<a href="mailto:philip.adar@gmail.com" target="_blank">philip.adar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>We did NOFBI in Kenya (with the Government spending a couple of Billions of<br>
>> KES), but I am not sure if it is still working.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Benson Greene<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.giftedfoundation@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>Hello Bob,<br>
>>>>We in Sierra Leone have recently began to experience this as our country<br>
>>>> embarks massive fibre optics to help upgrade the ICT infrastructure and<br>
>>>> bring effective communication to the people. There is a little price<br>
>>>> being paid at the moment. The roads are being dug to help keep the fibre<br>
>>>> cables underground often causing inconvenience. The pleasant part is<br>
>>>> knowing that there is a high potential for infrastructural boom in the<br>
>>>> area of ICT and knowing fully well that access to ICT facilities will no<br>
>>>> longer be restricted and tenuous.<br>
>>>>Thanks,<br>
>>>>Andrew<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>On Friday, December 6, 2013, Bob Omondi wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Dear Listers,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>This is a subject that really troubles me.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>Today, Africa is the destination for mega infrastructure projects<br>
>>>>> especially in Roads and Building Construction. "Real Estate Boom" in<br>
>>>>> now a common term in our continent and even bigger in Kenya.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>But I still don't understand why we would spend a fortune to put up<br>
>>>>> magnificent roads and buildings (of course sewer lines. water pipes and<br>
>>>>> basic drainage along the roads are usually sorted out) and forget to<br>
>>>>> lay fiber cables - the cheapest of the ingredients! In my opinion, this<br>
>>>>> is a mistake that can be stopped!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>What needs to be done to change this?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>Regards<br>
>>>>>Bob.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>--<br>
>>>>Andrew Benson Greene<br>
>>>>Founder and CEO<br>
>>>>B-Gifted Foundation of Sierra Leone<br>
>>>><a href="http://www.bgiftedfoundation.org" target="_blank">www.bgiftedfoundation.org</a><br>
>>>>*****************************************************<br>
>>>><a href="https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links" target="_blank">https://www.vizify.com/andrew-benson-greene-jr/links</a><br>
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>>>><br>
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