<div dir="ltr">Hello All, @Walu<div><br></div><div>I think we beat about the bush too much, calling the spade a big spoon all the time - it must be 50 years of this culture by now. The article may be inaccurate, but somebody somewhere might completely misunderstand the internet and overestimate their ability to police it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There's probably a root cause to this increased interest in cyber security. Is it really the stated Shs 2b annually lost to crime? If so, how does the shs 2b loss figure compare to other similar economies? And can that number be unpacked into a useful way for us to truly attribute proportionate cause to international web hosting? who's loosing the 2b anyway - KRA? </div>
<div><br></div><div>And, could some of that cyber crime be getting channeled though <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>, <a href="http://yahoo.com">yahoo.com</a>, <a href="http://facebook.com">facebook.com</a>? Perhaps we should be working at Google.com and <a href="http://facebook.com">facebook.com</a> being hosted in Kenya - that would be a more productive cause - my guess.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Agosta Liko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agostal@gmail.com" target="_blank">agostal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Walu<br><br></div>How does local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth ? <br>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">@WhiteAfrican,<br>
<br>
I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-)<br>
<br>
That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK...<br>
<br>
@Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground?<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals.<br>
<br>
I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-)<br>
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<div>On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <<a href="mailto:erik@zungu.com" target="_blank">erik@zungu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY<br>
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Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM<br>
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This is the kind of<br>
stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with<br>
the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what<br>
the internet is. <br>
<br>
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On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad!<br>
<<a href="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com" target="_blank">conradakunga@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Absolutely absurd if this is in<br>
fact true.<br>
How does hosting sites locally mitigated against<br>
cybercrime?<br>
<br>
What business does anyone have dictating to me<br>
where i can and can't host my websites?<br>
<br>
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at<br>
6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Listers<br>
<br>
The Communications<br>
Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that<br>
may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring<br>
websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight<br>
against cyber crime...<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-websites-locally-in-new-rules/-/539550/2089412/-/15ly5o1z/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-websites-locally-in-new-rules/-/539550/2089412/-/15ly5o1z/-/index.html</a><br>
<br>
I sincerely hope that the DG was<br>
somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to<br>
host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or<br>
mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security<br>
infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host<br>
any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one<br>
locally.<br>
<br>
Can government please focus on<br>
legislation and regulation instead of butting into my<br>
business and telling me where I should host my website??<br>
<br>
<br>
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