<p>+1 daktari, we need to develop a high afinity for data driven interventions. We cant ignore research in this day and age.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 19, 2013 9:41 PM, "Bitange Ndemo" <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Mark,<br>
At independence literacy in Kenya was below 20 percent. This is why Jomo<br>
Kenyatta made it a priority to deal with ignorance, poverty and disease.<br>
Today literacy in Kenya is approaching 90 percent but we still import<br>
bicycles. We import Kitenge and other African prints from the<br>
Netherlands. Why is cheaper to import from Netherlands where wage levels<br>
are higher than Kenya?<br>
<br>
This is because we theoretically dismiss everything without the benefit of<br>
science (data). Let us do it and if we fail, we shall have learnt some<br>
lesson. Whilst you can sue a structural engineer for professional<br>
negligence, you cannot sue an economist for the same. That is why I said<br>
that we defy economists since their guess is as good as yours. Do not<br>
look at a 40 million market. Look to the 1 billion market in Africa.<br>
Economists have been failing us since time immemorial. They failed<br>
Hoover. They failed Africa with the structural adjustment programmes.<br>
<br>
If this thing called comparative advantage worked, then steel producers<br>
would be the best car makers. But we know this is not true since Japan a<br>
non steel producer makes cheaper cars than UK yet UK has had plenty of<br>
steel. We must be good at producing something then figure out how we<br>
sustainability be competitive. If we do not try, we shall be like that<br>
person hoping to win lottery without buying the ticket.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
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> I agree with Adam albeit partly. Running to make everything under the sun<br>
> is no a smart move. However building horizontal industries where products<br>
> from one industry feed another and by products are the base of another<br>
> shoulfd be encouraged. Building spare parts for local cars is an example.<br>
><br>
> A knowledge economy is a good foundation but we still need to build and<br>
> make stuff. e.g Swiss chocolate, german cars, American Missiles, Chinese<br>
> iPhones etc. Am yet to see a stable economy that doesn't manufacture and<br>
> export physical goods.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Adam Nelson <<a href="mailto:adam@varud.com">adam@varud.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The first sentence does not lead to the second and third:<br>
>><br>
>> "We cannot have high unemployment, and at the same time import clothes<br>
>> from Sri Lanka or mitumba, when we can grow cotton and make our clothes.<br>
>> We must defy economic explanations on what works and what does not<br>
>> work.<br>
>> If we deployed thousands of youth digitizing land records, we would<br>
>> reduce<br>
>> caseloads in courts, become more efficient, and create more wealth to<br>
>> grow<br>
>> our economy."<br>
>><br>
>> Kenya should go towards counter-cyclical employment of youth doing<br>
>> productive infrastructure work: being teachers, building railroads,<br>
>> digitizing land records, etc...<br>
>><br>
>> However, you can't forget Adam Smith who talked extensively of<br>
>> Comparative<br>
>> Advantage (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage</a>). Sri<br>
>> Lanka (or really Bangladesh) has a far more economical solution for<br>
>> producing cotton clothing than Kenya has. This mostly has to do with<br>
>> the<br>
>> port of Mombassa being a stranglehold and the fact that a 40M person<br>
>> economy (Kenya) doesn't have the same economy of scale as a billion<br>
>> person<br>
>> economy (a guess at the number of people a Bangladeshi factory can<br>
>> export<br>
>> to easily).<br>
>><br>
>> Kenya is a small country and a small economy and if it wants to bring in<br>
>> more money and reduce unemployment, the solution is around creating an<br>
>> amazingly well-educated population and doing more knowledge work - not<br>
>> producing more clothing.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Kivuva<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dr. Ndemo has struck a cord that has been played in this list<br>
>>> countless times before. I remember him saying in another thread "you<br>
>>> cannot have unemployed youth yet we have countless garbage lining our<br>
>>> streets and estates!"<br>
>>><br>
>>> His argument on us importing cloths yet we can do it here is basic<br>
>>> economic that any country can master. India went that way through the<br>
>>> leadership of Mahatma.<br>
>>><br>
>>> But Dr. Ndemo, in the previous administration that you served so<br>
>>> ardently, the government shipped billions worth of capital on works<br>
>>> that could be done by Kenyans. I'm talking about the massive<br>
>>> infrastructure development that took place in the last 10years. That<br>
>>> capital could have done our unemployed generation justice if it was<br>
>>> utilized here home. I believe Kenyans can build decent roads, brides,<br>
>>> buildings and ports. What happened to national pride? It's the same<br>
>>> argument of importing cloths or planting cotton and producing our own<br>
>>> garments.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We're still not out of the woods yet, remember the Korean firm<br>
>>> implementing the PKI?<br>
>>><br>
>>> My cent-less<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 18/11/2013, Dorcas Muthoni <<a href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > A good piece by Dr. Bitange Ndemo<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *We must be more pragmatic to resolve Kenya's high unemployment*<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/-/1959700/2077756/-/oodsogz/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/-/1959700/2077756/-/oodsogz/-/index.html</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --<br>
>>> > Muthoni<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > My Blog: <a href="http://rugongo.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://rugongo.blogspot.com/</a><br>
>>> > --------------------------------------------<br>
>>> > Mahatma Gandhi once said:-<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > First they ignore you,<br>
>>> > Then they laugh at you,<br>
>>> > Then they fight you,<br>
>>> > AND THEN YOU WIN!!!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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