<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Interesting perspective Betty.<br><br></div><div>Members have come up with convincing thesis that can make any naysayer go back to class.<br></div><div><br></div>I would not discount the great networking opportunities you get in a class setting. But remember many have done their Masters through distance learning.<br>

<br></div>The best bit I liked when doing my Masters was the research techniques and knowledge you acquire.  That is invaluable. It's a pity that most of us drop our research abilities after submitting that Masters project.<br>

<br></div>Regards<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva<br><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br><div>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh</div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 October 2013 00:07, Betty Obura Ogange <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ogange@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ogange@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Kivuva, <br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal">

<span lang="EN-GB"><br></span></div>

<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I like the ‘bragging rights’ bit;-).</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal">

<span lang="EN-GB"><br></span></div>

<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Self-study is cheaper as you say, but
perhaps more expensive in the long run. Going to class, be it an online or
physical class, has some added value as you become part of a ‘community of
enquiry’ where learners collectively construct meaning as they engage in
collaborative learning activities of various kinds. This is why group work is
encouraged in many learning contexts. <br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal">

<span lang="EN-GB"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Self-study in its purest form sets you on a lonely learning
path and one definitely misses out on the added value that comes with the diverse
abilities that will naturally exist in a more social learning context.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal">

<br><span lang="EN-GB"></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I would choose Masters in a set up where I learn alongside others.<br>

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<div><div class="h5"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 14:14, Adam Nelson <<a href="mailto:adam@varud.com" target="_blank">adam@varud.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  </div></div>
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<div><div class="h5"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Michael,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>A Masters is potentially a program that can teach you a broad set of skills including how to think critically, how to communicate effectively, how to teach yourself, and how to work with others.</div>


<div><br clear="none"></div><div>A certificate is going to teach you how to do a specific set of tasks in a certain domain (i.e. Window Server management).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The thing with certificates is that they last for no more than 10 years and typically only 5.  In addition, some people view certificates as an anti-credential and count them against the candidate with the theory that certificates aren't demonstrative of true comprehension of the subject matter.</div>


<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would choose the Masters since it's a credential that lasts a lifetime but of course it's also far more expensive that just a series of certs.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>

Cheers,</div><div>Adam</div>
</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://kili.io/" target="_blank">kili.io</a></div><div><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Musings:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://twitter.com/varud" target="_blank"> twitter.com/varud</a></span></div>


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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Michael Bullut <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:main@kipsang.com" target="_blank">main@kipsang.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">

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<div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Greetings Listers,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">



I've been wrestling with a quagmire for sometimes now about pursuing a Masters Degree Program. As an Information Technology professional, would it more pertinent to seek vendor certifications as they instruct on what technologies the industry is using? In my humble observation, professionals of all fields pursue a Masters either because it is fashionable or they have no other choice but to do so. My question to my brethren: <i>What would your advice be in such a situation?</i> <i>Did you pursue a Masters because it was a means to an end or it enhanced your knowledge and passion in the field? </i><br clear="none">




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