<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Eric, I believe "substance" is the point Becky was ultimately trying to get at, so the discussion she brought up is very important to have. Becky has a great deal of <b>credibility</b> and <b>knowledge</b> in this community, and as a journalist her job is to ask hard questions. Kenya is one of the leading technology countries in Africa largely due to the knowledge and availability of gov't officials in the past 5 years to listen to the greater tech community in-country and then act upon it. They have done a fantastic job over time. <div><br></div><div>The perception is that there has <b>not</b> been a great deal of substance yet from the ICT Ministry since new leadership came into effect. Now, it is still somewhat early days, so that's a hard thing to judge. My takeaway from Becky's article was that the substance of knowledge is a good enough indicator in the first 5 months, and that was what was lacking from ministry leadership right now. <div><div><br></div><div>For Mr. Matiangi, I'm glad you responded and I hope that we see a lot more of this from you across your many areas of responsibility. With the changes in the way national gov't works at the ministry level, there will be more onus put on yourself to respond. The community does expect a high level of knowledge from gov't leadership on the respective fields of Information, Communication and Technology from the ICT ministry - it is what got us here in the first place. After all, we don't want to just maintain our position on the continent, but to grow it beyond that level and be a world-class hub for tech.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">When
I was nominated to Cabinet, last April, several of my friends including Dr.
Ndemo, Tom Mshindi, Elijah, Muriuki, and later others I met in policy
discussions like Alex and Walu encouraged me to visit, participate and engage
as much as humanly possible with the ICT sector in the blogosphere and join
KICTANET. The advice given to me was that in all these interactions, I would
meet diverse views on various aspects of policy in the ICT sector generally. I
try to ‘check in’ from time to time and keenly follow conversations on a number
of policy issues. <span> </span>I have learned a lot
from some of these exchanges. I have met very insightful and deep thinkers; and
interesting others too.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">I
must confess however that in the 5 months I have been in public space, there
are times one feels very frustrated and almost like one is being asked to
unlearn many things- even about the most basic moral issues like telling simple
truths.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">I
read Wanjiku’s post and didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Why would anybody
tell such blatant lies about someone they hardly know? Many of my colleagues at
the Ministry told me not to bother to respond, but I think it was too personal
not to be commented on.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">Everyone
who was at Connected Kenya early in the year for instance can (if they want to
be sincere) recollect that I not only attended the cocktail preceding the
dinner in honour of my colleagues, Minister Pogisho and Dr. Ndemo, but spoke at
the event. I was introduced by Dr. Ndemo. I actually not only attended and
spoke at the dinner but invited 3 colleague Ministers-from Tanzania, Uganda and
South Africa- attending the OGP meeting running side by side with Connected
Kenya at the Serena.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">In
any case, it wasn’t clear to anyone then that Dr. Ndemo would leave the
Ministry -appointments of PSs had not been done. When it was, we held a farewell
lunch for him and had such a great time with over 600 colleagues and industry
players at the Panafric. In collaboration with colleagues at the Ministry,
including Ndemo’s successor, Mr. Tiampati, we have ensured to include, invite
and very sincerely acknowledge our preceding colleagues in all activities,
especially where we are launching products, reports etc. that are a culmination
of efforts they initiated at the Ministry- postal payment gateway switch, the
National Broadband Strategy etc.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">At
the main Connected Kenya event, I successfully persuaded Paul Kukubo and other
colleagues involved in the planning to allow me to have a generous time on the
podium with Minister Pogisho as this was the most public opportunity for
handover.<span> </span></font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">There
sure is something fundamentally serious with people- adults -who tell lies such
are being told here. Where on earth does the allegation that I excused myself
to see the Mombasa Governor come from?</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">The
meeting Wanjiku refers to held by African Development Bank at the
Intercontinental Hotel was not even on PPPs. I was invited to preside over the
launch of the report <span style="">‘silicon Kenya’- an ICT study
commissioned by the African Development Bank</span>. I was there at 9am as
advised but the meeting started 1 hour late. I hurriedly made my remarks and
had to leave when I was done- at 1105hrs- because we were expected at a cabinet
meeting starting at 11am. I very humbly explained this to both the journalists
present and all who had questions. I had however promised Michelle Morgan and
Mark Okuttah that I would respond to their 2 brief questions which I did. There
was no discussion on LTE- Not anything I can remember was meaningful enough to
sufficiently demonstrate my shallowness and lack of depth!</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">It
is very frustrating to operate in the space of rumour mongering. I sincerely
think it is very demeaning for Dr. Ndemo and many of all of us his friends and
colleagues to engage in such a cheap discussion as being proposed here about
his and my relationship that’s over three decades old and much deeper and more
expansive than our interaction at the Ministry of Information or generally in
the ICT sector. It is very unfortunate- to say the very least.</font></font></font></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">Hate is a very strong term to use, especially to describe a
relationship between two people one of whom you begin by confessing you do not
know much of. I will let all readers and serious decent people who interact
with this unfortunate discussion be the judges. </font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">I try- even with the tyranny of demands on our time to
return some of the heavy traffic of e-mails, enquiries etc. that come to the
Ministry. I will certainly not lie that I will be able to do every interview,
meet every individual or group of people who want to meet or even turn up at every
single event I am required to. I try to meet as many people as I humanly can
and even try harder to show up for events when we have been invited and advised
in good time; but I also delegate in cases I cannot obviously deal with due to
various constraints. </font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">I am so grateful to God for the wonderful people I found at
the Ministry and all the very hardworking and focused Kenyans that work with me
in many of our agencies. We try hard and will continue to. Of course we may not
satisfy everyone but we promise to do our very best. </font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">When we are criticised, however- which we will always expect
and take in our stride- we hope people are at least factual- even about
reporting events- and more focused on the work we do rather than rumours and
gossip.</font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">To be insulted is painful. It is even much more painful to
be mispresented and for plain lies to be peddled about you. I pray that no
Kenyan perpetuates this about a fellow Kenyan, even one they simply just don’t like.</font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><font size="3"><font><font face="Calibri">Ultimately, the Almighty God knows my heart and my every thought.
He knows my thoughts and feelings about fellow men on earth including Dr. Ndemo
and I remain accountable to my creator.</font></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">@Becky, @Jane,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
True that Ndemo was cool like that. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">But
I guess everyone has their own style (remember when Kibaki took over
and went quiet in Statehouse and everyone -comparing him to Moi - was
asking where is this old man; 10years later the guy showed up with Thika
Superhighway +++<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>One
more thing, Matiangi is Cabinet Sec a.k.a Minister so it is abit unfair
to compare him with Ndemo who was Permanent Sec (different roles).
Perhaps if Becky did an article comparing Matiangi to Pogisho (former
Minister) we might get a different picture?</span></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
That
said, I also do miss seeing the "Ndemo effect" at the Ministry...but
maybe we should instead target to bringing out the PS Tiampati out of
the woods..we could start by giving him a free, lifetime registration to
KICTAnet :-) <br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>walu.<br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Network of non- formal Educational institutions <<a href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br><div class="im"><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> </div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 27, 2013 12:56 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] What Matiangi can learn from Ndemo<br> </font> </div> <div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
I agree with Wanjiku . Dr Ndema was that available and supportive to everybody.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Jane<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Rebecca Wanjiku <<a href="mailto:rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jane Muriuki <<a href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 27, 2013 12:25 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
[kictanet] What Matiangi can learn from Ndemo<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span style="color:rgb(50,51,51);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px">When it became obvious that Bitange Ndemo would not be taking over as the Cabinet Secretary in the Ministry of Information and Communication, the ICT community wondered who would wear the giant shoes left by Ndemo.</span><br clear="none">
</div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div><span>
</span><div style="color:rgb(50,51,51);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;margin-bottom:15px">To calm the nerves and prepare for his exit, Ndemo wrote to the ICT industry and you can read it <a href="http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/04/ndemo-sees-his-departure-as-imminent/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,153)">here.</span></a></div>
<div style="color:rgb(50,51,51);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;margin-bottom:15px">So much has been said about Ndemo, both positive and negative but the thing I am most happy about is his easy approach; want to see him, drop him an email, get an appointment at 6 am or earlier. Want to interview him, drop the questions on email, and for some reason I would have answers in 24 hours, on email. No reminder, he will do it.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(50,51,51);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;margin-bottom:15px">Read more…..</div><div><a href="http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/09/what-matiangi-can-learn-from-ndemo/" target="_blank">http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/09/what-matiangi-can-learn-from-ndemo/</a><br clear="none">
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Tel. 254 720 318 925</div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><a href="http://wanjiku.co.ke/" target="_blank">wanjiku.co.ke</a></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div>
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