<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Hi,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>These silos that exist in the government are killing us, that is why we need to at the least have a single contact point for the entire government an issue that not even Dr. Ndemo who pulled a cable all the way from Fujaira was unable to achieve. <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span><br></span></div><br><span></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The tunnel </span><span><span>recently </span>identified running under the Westgate Mall is a clear sign of a disconnected system that suffers from a serious analogic disorder, I know of similar tunnels in the CBD and even used to play in one in Buru Buru.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nairobi-attack-escape-route-tunnel-2314873 <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span></span><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">We have a non-existent emergency contact number, hundreds of numbers for the government many of which are never picked up, police manned traffic lights, no comprehensive infrastructure plans not even for the roads, ghost workers who collect salaries and attend conferences, and no finger print database.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">With all the above it is
clear why terrorists can come in have a field day and leave unnoticed.</div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Regards</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">PS. <span>The
KICTA has shown that it has no intention of remedying the issue as is
clearly seen from their first major project a Kes. 1.5 billion
application purchase for the registrar of motor vehicles. Our friend
the Governor of Nairobi and his ilk are no better as they have gone our
tendering for building of data centers, I wonder how that will assist in
weeding out ghost workers, garbage in . . .</span></div><div><br></div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya</div><div><br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696</div><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 25 September 2013, 18:40<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Incompetence
gallore<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7314061278"><div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div>Those statistics are pretty good and the linkage to societal differences apt. However it doesn't excuse the mediocrity that Joe alluded to. </div><div><br></div><div>Imagine if we were to just pull up our socks by a mere 10%? It would probably mean we save one more life per 100k. In Kenya that would mean saving 40 lives per year. How about that? Isn't that worth us improving? <br><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div><span style=""><br></span></div><div><span style="">"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 25, 2013, at
3:47 PM, Gideon <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com">gideonrop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv7314061278gmail_default" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153);">+1 Mr. James Mbugua.</div><div class="yiv7314061278gmail_extra"><br><div class="yiv7314061278gmail_default" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153);">
May the souls of those who lost their lives in the Westgate attack RIP and may we find humanity in our daily living. I appreciate all the efforts that were made to aid during the sad time by everyone directly or indirectly. God BLess Kenya.<br>
</div><br><div class="yiv7314061278gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv7314061278gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<br>
Nairobi Homicides per 100,000 people = 4<br>
<br>
Memphis, Tennessee No.10 most dangerous US City Murders per 100,000 = 24.5<br>
<br>
Top 3 are Flint, Michigan (64.9 murders per 100,000 people), Detroit<br>
54.6/1000 and New Orleans, Louisiana 53.5.<br>
<br>
With 4 per 100,00, I would say Nairobi, although has work that needs to be<br>
done, should be judged first and foremost on the nature of its society and<br>
hence these comparative figures...Lack of the 911, police equipment or<br>
vehicles, may not be the problem but the accomodating nature of this<br>
society...After all, American cities with more than enough emergency lines<br>
operators, vehicles and so on are suffering crime rates beyond the realm of<br>
Nairobians' imagination (More than 10 times).<br>
<br>
We are not equipped for terrorist attacks that we have learnt just like NYC<br>
learn with 9/11 where many firemen and policemen died rushing into the<br>
towers to aid, the important thing is what lessons to draw from here.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, for someone from say the US or UK which are highly<br>
individualistic societies may find the lack of sufficient patrol cars a<br>
problem but in a society where informal social support systems pervade<br>
every level of society like Kenya's calling the neighbour to help is<br>
usually enough.<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:joe.njeru@zilojo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:joe.njeru@zilojo.com">joe.njeru@zilojo.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hello Adam,<br>
><br>
> I agree with you on all the points below.<br>
><br>
> The level of professionalism in certain parts of public sector is<br>
> diabolical.<br>
><br>
> When I was in Kigali some time back, a kid told his father - who had just<br>
> littered the street with a paper - that if he did not pick it up he would<br>
> report him to the police...<br>
><br>
> At iHub, I always pay City Council and ensure I get a receipt. Which I<br>
> promptly claim as a business expense.<br>
><br>
> That helps reduce the tax I pay Ceaser each year.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 09/25/2013 11:03 AM, Adam Nelson wrote:<br>
><br>
> I drove by a dead body this morning on the bypass between Wayaki way and<br>
> Grevillea Grove. He was clearly beaten to death and been there for some<br>
> time. We called an emergency line and ostensibly the police will come. On<br>
> Ngong Rd across from Brew Bistro 2 weeks ago a boy was killed by a truck<br>
> and his body lay on the side of the street for 2 hours (Ngong Rd, one of<br>
> the busiest in town) before anybody official arrived at the scene.<br>
><br>
> How can it be expected that the Nairobi police handle one of the most<br>
> complex hostage crises of the decade when they can't even respond to a dead<br>
> body on the side of a major thoroughfare within 2 hours?<br>
><br>
> I visited Kigali 3 weeks ago and what it made me realize is that it's<br>
> not an 'African thing' or a 'Developing World thing' that Nairobi is a<br>
> disaster. It's a total lack of excellence at every level of government.<br>
> Kigali is better run in every respect than Nairobi and for the most part,<br>
> it just comes down to better management.<br>
><br>
> I'm not one for recriminations and at a time like this am mostly just<br>
> sad. In the end, I'm an American and can't effect change here - it's up to<br>
> Nairobians and Kenyans to say enough is enough and to demand that the<br>
> public safety system be reformed.<br>
><br>
> 1. A 911 (or 999) emergency call center<br>
> 2. All police wearing ID numbers and equipped with a ticket book so they<br>
> can write tickets<br>
> 3. A new type of police with a different uniform that receive double pay<br>
> but will be fired if found guilty of corruption<br>
> 4. All police equipped with a mode of transportation (even just a mountain<br>
> bike)<br>
> 5. All police equipped with a radio<br>
><br>
> Is this too much to ask of a city that bills itself as the capital of<br>
> anything?<br>
><br>
> -Adam<br>
><br>
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> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> A Standard article explains how disorderly and dangerous the operation<br>
>> was, Kenyans troops killed each other, and endangered the lives of hostages<br>
>> in a haphazard operation.<br>
>><br>
>> The familiar shoot to kill order was given out <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk">http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk</a><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> From: robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>> Sent: 25/09/2013 08:29<br>
>> To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> Subject: [kictanet] <div class="yiv7314061278gmail_default" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153);display:inline;"></div>Incompetence gallore<br>
>><br>
>> Editorial from a Saudi Paper<br>
>><br>
>> - Something wrong in Kenya<br>
>><br>
>> There can be no denying the extraordinary challenges facing the<br>
>> Kenyan government. Yet as the last terrorists were being rooted out of<br>
>> Nairobi?s Westgate shopping mall at the end of a slaughter spree that has<br>
>> killed some 70 people and injured hundreds more, the Kenyan authorities<br>
>> need to be asking themselves some hard questions.<br>
>><br>
>> This is a country which because it is actively involved in combating<br>
>> Al-Shabab terrorists in Somalia is supposed to be on the very highest state<br>
>> of alert. Kenya did not choose this confrontation. In 1998 it was an<br>
>> amiably corrupt and easygoing country with merely a nasty record of armed<br>
>> robberies, mostly of rich Western tourists.<br>
>><br>
>> Then Al-Qaeda launched one of its very first international attacks, a<br>
>> deadly assault on the US embassy in the Kenyan capital which left 224<br>
>> people dead the great majority of them Kenyans. Thereafter, there was a<br>
>> succession of small attacks by the Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Shabab which<br>
>> culminated in raids on Kenyan coastal tourist resorts and a Somali refugee<br>
>> camp, targeting and kidnapping foreigners.<br>
>><br>
>> It was the final straw. Nairobi sent troops into Somali striking<br>
>> Al-Shabab fighters in the rear as they were pressed from the north by<br>
>> African Union forces. Thereafter, the terrorists resorted to low-level<br>
>> violence, mostly hit and run grenade attacks across the Somali border,<br>
>> until the attack by some 15 heavily armed men on the supposedly<br>
>> well-guarded up-market Westgate shopping center. The attackers managed to<br>
>> negotiate their way with all their weaponry through the capital?s<br>
>> roadblocks. They contrived to organize their deadly assault without the<br>
>> Kenyan intelligence services picking up the slightest inkling of what was<br>
>> about to happen.<br>
>><br>
>> Something has got to be wrong somewhere. And the closer one looks at<br>
>> the way the tragic events unfolded, the more difficult questions it seems<br>
>> that the Kenyan authorities have to answer. Why for instance did it take<br>
>> almost half an hour for the first properly armed and equipped teams to<br>
>> arrive at the shopping mall? Why was there no proper building evacuation<br>
>> scheme nor any obvious plan to respond to a terrorist outrage within the<br>
>> complex?<br>
>><br>
>> Acts of bravery by shopping center staff, individual police officers<br>
>> and ordinary members of the public cannot mask what appears to have been a<br>
>> series of bungles by all those who should have been responsible for the<br>
>> safety of the complex and its visitors. Journalists noted that when<br>
>> heavily-armed special forces arrived, some seemed nervous and confused,<br>
>> perhaps as a result of the shouting that could be heard from senior<br>
>> officers who themselves seemed poorly briefed and unprepared and as a<br>
>> result unsure of how best to proceed. The inevitable report into this<br>
>> horrific event may find that by delaying a rapid and firm response to the<br>
>> attack, the authorities permitted the terrorists to continue their killing<br>
>> spree and also allowed them to consolidate their position within the mall.<br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps a clue to what went so disastrously wrong at the Westgate<br>
>> mall can be found in the devastating fire at Nairobi?s Jomo Kenyatta<br>
>> International Airport last month. Though the blaze broke out in the early<br>
>> morning, meaning no one was killed, the extent of the fire and the<br>
>> extraordinary delays in getting fire appliances to the scene raised major<br>
>> questions about the competence of the Kenyan authorities. The Westgate<br>
>> tragedy must compound these serious concerns.<br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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