<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>James</div><div><br></div><div>Those statistics are pretty good and the linkage to societal differences apt. However it doesn't excuse the mediocrity that Joe alluded to. </div><div><br></div><div>Imagine if we were to just pull up our socks by a mere 10%? It would probably mean we save one more life per 100k. In Kenya that would mean saving 40 lives per year. How about that? Isn't that worth us improving? <br><br><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Gideon <<a href="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com">gideonrop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153)">+1 Mr. James Mbugua.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153)">
May the souls of those who lost their lives in the Westgate attack RIP and may we find humanity in our daily living. I appreciate all the efforts that were made to aid during the sad time by everyone directly or indirectly. God BLess Kenya.<br>
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Nairobi Homicides per 100,000 people = 4<br>
<br>
Memphis, Tennessee No.10 most dangerous US City Murders per 100,000 = 24.5<br>
<br>
Top 3 are Flint, Michigan (64.9 murders per 100,000 people), Detroit<br>
54.6/1000 and New Orleans, Louisiana 53.5.<br>
<br>
With 4 per 100,00, I would say Nairobi, although has work that needs to be<br>
done, should be judged first and foremost on the nature of its society and<br>
hence these comparative figures...Lack of the 911, police equipment or<br>
vehicles, may not be the problem but the accomodating nature of this<br>
society...After all, American cities with more than enough emergency lines<br>
operators, vehicles and so on are suffering crime rates beyond the realm of<br>
Nairobians' imagination (More than 10 times).<br>
<br>
We are not equipped for terrorist attacks that we have learnt just like NYC<br>
learn with 9/11 where many firemen and policemen died rushing into the<br>
towers to aid, the important thing is what lessons to draw from here.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, for someone from say the US or UK which are highly<br>
individualistic societies may find the lack of sufficient patrol cars a<br>
problem but in a society where informal social support systems pervade<br>
every level of society like Kenya's calling the neighbour to help is<br>
usually enough.<br>
<br>
James<br>
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <<a href="mailto:joe.njeru@zilojo.com">joe.njeru@zilojo.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hello Adam,<br>
><br>
> I agree with you on all the points below.<br>
><br>
> The level of professionalism in certain parts of public sector is<br>
> diabolical.<br>
><br>
> When I was in Kigali some time back, a kid told his father - who had just<br>
> littered the street with a paper - that if he did not pick it up he would<br>
> report him to the police...<br>
><br>
> At iHub, I always pay City Council and ensure I get a receipt. Which I<br>
> promptly claim as a business expense.<br>
><br>
> That helps reduce the tax I pay Ceaser each year.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 09/25/2013 11:03 AM, Adam Nelson wrote:<br>
><br>
> I drove by a dead body this morning on the bypass between Wayaki way and<br>
> Grevillea Grove. He was clearly beaten to death and been there for some<br>
> time. We called an emergency line and ostensibly the police will come. On<br>
> Ngong Rd across from Brew Bistro 2 weeks ago a boy was killed by a truck<br>
> and his body lay on the side of the street for 2 hours (Ngong Rd, one of<br>
> the busiest in town) before anybody official arrived at the scene.<br>
><br>
> How can it be expected that the Nairobi police handle one of the most<br>
> complex hostage crises of the decade when they can't even respond to a dead<br>
> body on the side of a major thoroughfare within 2 hours?<br>
><br>
> I visited Kigali 3 weeks ago and what it made me realize is that it's<br>
> not an 'African thing' or a 'Developing World thing' that Nairobi is a<br>
> disaster. It's a total lack of excellence at every level of government.<br>
> Kigali is better run in every respect than Nairobi and for the most part,<br>
> it just comes down to better management.<br>
><br>
> I'm not one for recriminations and at a time like this am mostly just<br>
> sad. In the end, I'm an American and can't effect change here - it's up to<br>
> Nairobians and Kenyans to say enough is enough and to demand that the<br>
> public safety system be reformed.<br>
><br>
> 1. A 911 (or 999) emergency call center<br>
> 2. All police wearing ID numbers and equipped with a ticket book so they<br>
> can write tickets<br>
> 3. A new type of police with a different uniform that receive double pay<br>
> but will be fired if found guilty of corruption<br>
> 4. All police equipped with a mode of transportation (even just a mountain<br>
> bike)<br>
> 5. All police equipped with a radio<br>
><br>
> Is this too much to ask of a city that bills itself as the capital of<br>
> anything?<br>
><br>
> -Adam<br>
><br>
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><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> A Standard article explains how disorderly and dangerous the operation<br>
>> was, Kenyans troops killed each other, and endangered the lives of hostages<br>
>> in a haphazard operation.<br>
>><br>
>> The familiar shoot to kill order was given out <a href="http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk" target="_blank">http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk</a><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> From: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>> Sent: 25/09/2013 08:29<br>
>> To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> Subject: [kictanet] <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,0,153);display:inline"></div>Incompetence gallore<br>
>><br>
>> Editorial from a Saudi Paper<br>
>><br>
>> - Something wrong in Kenya<br>
>><br>
>> There can be no denying the extraordinary challenges facing the<br>
>> Kenyan government. Yet as the last terrorists were being rooted out of<br>
>> Nairobi?s Westgate shopping mall at the end of a slaughter spree that has<br>
>> killed some 70 people and injured hundreds more, the Kenyan authorities<br>
>> need to be asking themselves some hard questions.<br>
>><br>
>> This is a country which because it is actively involved in combating<br>
>> Al-Shabab terrorists in Somalia is supposed to be on the very highest state<br>
>> of alert. Kenya did not choose this confrontation. In 1998 it was an<br>
>> amiably corrupt and easygoing country with merely a nasty record of armed<br>
>> robberies, mostly of rich Western tourists.<br>
>><br>
>> Then Al-Qaeda launched one of its very first international attacks, a<br>
>> deadly assault on the US embassy in the Kenyan capital which left 224<br>
>> people dead the great majority of them Kenyans. Thereafter, there was a<br>
>> succession of small attacks by the Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Shabab which<br>
>> culminated in raids on Kenyan coastal tourist resorts and a Somali refugee<br>
>> camp, targeting and kidnapping foreigners.<br>
>><br>
>> It was the final straw. Nairobi sent troops into Somali striking<br>
>> Al-Shabab fighters in the rear as they were pressed from the north by<br>
>> African Union forces. Thereafter, the terrorists resorted to low-level<br>
>> violence, mostly hit and run grenade attacks across the Somali border,<br>
>> until the attack by some 15 heavily armed men on the supposedly<br>
>> well-guarded up-market Westgate shopping center. The attackers managed to<br>
>> negotiate their way with all their weaponry through the capital?s<br>
>> roadblocks. They contrived to organize their deadly assault without the<br>
>> Kenyan intelligence services picking up the slightest inkling of what was<br>
>> about to happen.<br>
>><br>
>> Something has got to be wrong somewhere. And the closer one looks at<br>
>> the way the tragic events unfolded, the more difficult questions it seems<br>
>> that the Kenyan authorities have to answer. Why for instance did it take<br>
>> almost half an hour for the first properly armed and equipped teams to<br>
>> arrive at the shopping mall? Why was there no proper building evacuation<br>
>> scheme nor any obvious plan to respond to a terrorist outrage within the<br>
>> complex?<br>
>><br>
>> Acts of bravery by shopping center staff, individual police officers<br>
>> and ordinary members of the public cannot mask what appears to have been a<br>
>> series of bungles by all those who should have been responsible for the<br>
>> safety of the complex and its visitors. Journalists noted that when<br>
>> heavily-armed special forces arrived, some seemed nervous and confused,<br>
>> perhaps as a result of the shouting that could be heard from senior<br>
>> officers who themselves seemed poorly briefed and unprepared and as a<br>
>> result unsure of how best to proceed. The inevitable report into this<br>
>> horrific event may find that by delaying a rapid and firm response to the<br>
>> attack, the authorities permitted the terrorists to continue their killing<br>
>> spree and also allowed them to consolidate their position within the mall.<br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps a clue to what went so disastrously wrong at the Westgate<br>
>> mall can be found in the devastating fire at Nairobi?s Jomo Kenyatta<br>
>> International Airport last month. Though the blaze broke out in the early<br>
>> morning, meaning no one was killed, the extent of the fire and the<br>
>> extraordinary delays in getting fire appliances to the scene raised major<br>
>> questions about the competence of the Kenyan authorities. The Westgate<br>
>> tragedy must compound these serious concerns.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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