<div dir="ltr">Still related to this thread, probably we need to find out if this info from al-shabaab is true or just propaganda.<br><br>"@UKenyatta and his govt are to be held culpable for #Westgate and for the lives of the 137 hostages who were being held by the Mujahideen"<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 September 2013 16:18, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">Kenyans, a new challenge<br><br>We have moved up the ranks of international rankings in corruption, child bearing, HIV infections, HIV cures and now let as aim to beat the number of homicides per 100,000 kbfs.<br>
<br>James are you serious?<br><br>What I am asking is that we use our talents and be weary of the repercussions when we get to the pearly gates of ahera just to be turned back because we buried ours in the ground for we new our master was a cruel and mean master or reapt where he did not sow.<br>
<br>1.� Get the police off the road and lets use the traffic lights and flog those who do not respect them, on the spot.� The terrorists must have been in stitches as they passed the various police manned junctions.<br>2.� Those who use county (formerly council) parking on a daily basis please buy seasonal tickets
so as to reduce the temptation to bribe, you will also have made sure that your payments gets into the rightful coffers.<br>3.� If you have total dark tint on your car windows remove them as you will realise the folly of having them when you have been car jacked and watch as you pass police who cannot see you sandwiched between the two thugs with guns on their laps<br>
4.� In IT security the greatest threat is from those within which is why now we implement behavior detection solutions not padlocks, razor wire and mirrors to protect our assets let us work on developing intelligence systems that work towards prevention.<br>
5.� Tomorrow when you visit some of this highly secure locations after the askari has finished checking your boot asking if a "bomb" can fit under the rear seat or within the spare tire, and when at the reception they ask you to leave behind your ID ask them how they expect your body to be identified if you dropped dead
in the corridor - I really hate mediocrity especially when we institutionalize the same.<br>6.� Those who have access to the owners of the paybill number 848484 please ask them if they can provide a toll free number for the police and also connectivity to all the police stations and police posts so that we can finally get back our 999, to hell with 911 I will never remember it when under pressure.� <br>
7.� If you have access to the CS ICT and the acting head of the KICTA please ask them to include some component of funding to equip the emergency services call center instead of having hackathons to develop applications that will never see the light of day.<br>
8.� A year or so ago we raised 1 billion to help those who had been affected by famine and then we killed them faster by sending them grains infected with Aflatoxin yet no one followed up, we have also never seen a comprehensive report on how the funds where used which confirms
what has been echoed on this thread - we are rotten to the core both public and private sector<br>9.� We recently had a rogue bus driver kill 41 Kenyans I saw no counseling desks, hash tags, or paybill numbers all because those affected were far removed from those of us who can drive our private cars to the village, what happened on Saturday is a culmination of our arrogant disregard for the less fortunate amongst us.� Let us have a uniform response to calamities irrespective of which social strata is affected all of us spent 9 months in our mothers wombs<br>
10.� Many of you, I distance myself, do not know what happens in the lives of the many, every day at the various matatu terminus be it in the CBD or the farthest corner of Kayole the owners are being extorted by the so called touts.� I calculated the amount recently when waiting to take a matatu home, the stage operators make 100 - 200 shillings from each matatu that originates
or terminates at the terminus.� An average matatu does 20 trips and there are a<span></span>bout 50 matatus on my route, do the math.<br><br>If the entire security system can look the other way as this goes on right under their noses how do we expect them to identify a terrorist activity? <br>
<div><br><span></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><span>I need to get home, hope I have left you with some food for thought as we participate in implementing and supporting pedestrian solutions to herculean problems�</span></div>
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<span>PS.� Can we take up the setting up of the emergency services system as our CSR? lol<br></span></div><div>�</div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> James Mbugua <<a href="mailto:jgmbugua@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgmbugua@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 25 September 2013, 15:33<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Incompetence gallore<br> </font> </div> <div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Nairobi Homicides per 100,000 people = 4</div><div>
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</div><div>Memphis, Tennessee No.10 most dangerous US City Murders per 100,000 = 24.5</div><div><br></div><div>Top 3 are Flint, Michigan (64.9 murders per 100,000 people), Detroit 54.6/1000 and New Orleans, Louisiana 53.5.</div>
<div><br></div><div>With 4 per 100,00, I would say Nairobi, although has work that needs to be done, should be judged first and foremost on the nature of its society and hence these comparative figures...Lack of the 911, police equipment or vehicles, may not be the problem but the accomodating nature of this society...After all, American cities with more than enough emergency lines operators, vehicles and so on are suffering crime rates beyond the realm of Nairobians' imagination (More than 10 times).</div>
<div><br></div><div>We are not equipped for terrorist attacks that we have learnt just like NYC learn with 9/11 where many firemen and policemen died rushing into the towers to aid, the important thing is what lessons to draw from here.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Otherwise, for someone from say the US or UK which are highly individualistic societies may find the lack of sufficient patrol cars a problem but in a society where informal social support systems pervade every level of society like Kenya's calling the neighbour to help is usually enough.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>James</div></div><div><br><br><div>On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:joe.njeru@zilojo.com" target="_blank">joe.njeru@zilojo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font color="#000000">Hello Adam,<br>
<br>
I agree with you on all the points below. <br>
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The level of professionalism in certain parts of public sector is
diabolical. <br>
<br>
When I was in Kigali some time back, a kid told his father - who
had just littered the street with a paper - that if he did not
pick it up he would report him to the police...<br>
<br>
At iHub, I always pay City Council and ensure I get a receipt.
Which I promptly claim as a business expense. <br>
<br>
That helps reduce the tax I pay� Ceaser each year.<br>
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<div><font color="#000000">On 09/25/2013
11:03 AM, Adam Nelson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000">I drove by a dead body this
morning on the bypass between Wayaki way and Grevillea Grove.
�He was clearly beaten to death and been there for some time.
�We called an emergency line and ostensibly the police will
come. �On Ngong Rd across from Brew Bistro 2 weeks ago a boy
was killed by a truck and his body lay on the side of the
street for 2 hours (Ngong Rd, one of the busiest in town)
before anybody official arrived at the scene.</font>
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<div><font color="#000000">How can it be expected that the
Nairobi police handle one of the most complex hostage crises
of the decade when they can't even respond to a dead body on
the side of a major thoroughfare within 2 hours?</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">I visited Kigali 3 weeks ago and what
it made me realize is that it's not an 'African thing' or a
'Developing World thing' that Nairobi is a disaster. �It's a
total lack of excellence at every level of government.
�Kigali is better run in every respect than Nairobi and for
the most part, it just comes down to better management.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">I'm not one for recriminations and at
a time like this am mostly just sad. �In the end, I'm an
American and can't effect change here - it's up to
Nairobians and Kenyans to say enough is enough and to demand
that the public safety system be reformed.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">1. A 911 (or 999) emergency call
center</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">2. All police wearing ID numbers and
equipped with a ticket book so they can write tickets</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">3. A new type of police with a
different uniform that receive double pay but will be fired
if found guilty of corruption</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">4. All police equipped with a mode of
transportation (even just a mountain bike)</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">5. All police equipped with a radio</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">Is this too much to ask of a city
that bills itself as the capital of anything?</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">-Adam</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">On Wed, Sep 25,
2013 at 10:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">A Standard article explains how
disorderly and dangerous the operation was,
Kenyans troops killed each other, and endangered
the lives of hostages in a haphazard operation. <br>
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The familiar shoot to kill order was given out <a rel="nofollow" href="http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk" target="_blank">http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk</a><br>
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Incompetence gallore</span><br>
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<div><span> <font size="4">Something
wrong in Kenya
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<br>
There can be
no denying the
extraordinary
challenges
facing the
Kenyan
government.
Yet as the
last
terrorists
were being
rooted out of
Nairobi�s
Westgate
shopping mall
at the end of
a slaughter
spree that has
killed some 70
people and
injured
hundreds more,
the Kenyan
authorities
need to be
asking
themselves
some hard
questions.<br>
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This is a
country which
because it is
actively
involved in
combating
Al-Shabab
terrorists in
Somalia is
supposed to be
on the very
highest state
of alert.
Kenya did not
choose this
confrontation.
In 1998 it was
an amiably
corrupt and
easygoing
country with
merely a nasty
record of
armed
robberies,
mostly of rich
Western
tourists.<br>
<br>
Then Al-Qaeda
launched one
of its very
first
international
attacks, a
deadly assault
on the US
embassy in the
Kenyan capital
which left 224
people dead
the great
majority of
them Kenyans.
Thereafter,
there was a
succession of
small attacks
by the
Al-Qaeda-linked
Al-Shabab
which
culminated in
raids on
Kenyan coastal
tourist
resorts and a
Somali refugee
camp,
targeting and
kidnapping
foreigners.<br>
<br>
It was the
final straw.
Nairobi sent
troops into
Somali
striking
Al-Shabab
fighters in
the rear as
they were
pressed from
the north by
African Union
forces.
Thereafter,
the terrorists
resorted to
low-level
violence,
mostly hit and
run grenade
attacks across
the Somali
border, until
the attack by
some 15
heavily armed
men on the
supposedly
well-guarded
up-market
Westgate
shopping
center. The
attackers
managed to
negotiate
their way with
all their
weaponry
through the
capital�s
roadblocks.
They contrived
to organize
their deadly
assault
without the
Kenyan
intelligence
services
picking up the
slightest
inkling of
what was about
to happen.<br>
<br>
Something has
got to be
wrong
somewhere. And
the closer one
looks at the
way the tragic
events
unfolded, the
more difficult
questions it
seems that the
Kenyan
authorities
have to
answer. Why
for instance
did it take
almost half an
hour for the
first properly
armed and
equipped teams
to arrive at
the shopping
mall? Why was
there no
proper
building
evacuation
scheme nor any
obvious plan
to respond to
a terrorist
outrage within
the complex?<br>
<br>
Acts of
bravery by
shopping
center staff,
individual
police
officers and
ordinary
members of the
public cannot
mask what
appears to
have been a
series of
bungles by all
those who
should have
been
responsible
for the safety
of the complex
and its
visitors.
Journalists
noted that
when
heavily-armed
special forces
arrived, some
seemed nervous
and confused,
perhaps as a
result of the
shouting that
could be heard
from senior
officers who
themselves
seemed poorly
briefed and
unprepared and
as a result
unsure of how
best to
proceed. The
inevitable
report into
this horrific
event may find
that by
delaying a
rapid and firm
response to
the attack,
the
authorities
permitted the
terrorists to
continue their
killing spree
and also
allowed them
to consolidate
their position
within the
mall.<br>
<br>
Perhaps a clue
to what went
so
disastrously
wrong at the
Westgate mall
can be found
in the
devastating
fire at
Nairobi�s Jomo
Kenyatta
International
Airport last
month. Though
the blaze
broke out in
the early
morning,
meaning no one
was killed,
the extent of
the fire and
the
extraordinary
delays in
getting fire
appliances to
the scene
raised major
questions
about the
competence of
the Kenyan
authorities.
The Westgate
tragedy must
compound these
serious
concerns.</font></span></div>
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