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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">I agree with Yawe! Let us not loose the opportunity to suggest solutions because this may not be the last time that we are seeing this sort of senseless attack. </span><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">People, we will exhaust ourselves with blame! Can we for once imagine the difficulty of the circumstances in which our security were working? </span><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">Do we for example have an idea of the countless such raids that have either been foiled or minimized? I remember there was an alert that shopping malls would be attacked. Was this like two years ago? People, let us remember that even in t</span><span style="text-align: justify; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%;">he highly secured cctv'd and over-resourced US, gunmen still walk into nursery schools and cinema halls and randomly
shoot everyone.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; text-align: justify;"> Seriously, how is one expected to predict the actions of
mad men and a woman? And like a friend of mine has asked me �who would have
known that a four year old boy calling a gunman "a bad man" in his
face would halt his shooting, produce please of forgiveness from the gunmen,
free passage for the boy, sister and mother and even more, the departing gift
of Mars bars for the kids from the gunman?�</span><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">As we heap tons and tons of blame, let us remember that just as a doctor losses a patient/botches up a surgery or an editor runs with a graphic lead photo thinking he is telling the "real" story rather than repulsing his readers - there will always be unfortunate lapses, errors of judgement and plain blunders even in a security intelligence job. What solutions are we offering? We need to move from 'if only' to solutions of preparedness. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">Solutions, solutions and more solutions! </span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">Rgds</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;">Grace<br></span><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: dmbuvi@gmail.com<br>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:18:08 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Incompetence gallore<br>CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;">A Standard article explains how disorderly and dangerous the operation was, Kenyans troops killed each other, and endangered the lives of hostages in a haphazard operation. <br>
<br>The familiar shoot to kill order was given out <a href="http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk" target="_blank">http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk</a><br><br>Sent from my Windows Phone</div></div>
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<span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robert yawe</a></span><br><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;">25/09/2013 08:29</span><br>
<span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko Mbuvi</a></span><br><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Cc: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</a></span><br>
<span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;">[kictanet] Incompetence gallore</span><br><br></div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;">
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<div><div class="ecxpermalink_stream">Editorial from a Saudi Paper <br><ul class="ecxuiList ecxuiStream ecxuiStreamHomepage ecxtranslateParent ecxuiStreamRedesign ecxuiStreamLargeHeadline ecx_4kg ecx_4ks"><li class="ecxuiUnifiedStory ecxuiStreamStory ecxgenericStreamStory ecxaid_1073346013 ecxaid_6628568379" id="ecxstream_story_524274092bd5f9297970896">
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There can be no denying the extraordinary challenges facing the Kenyan
government. Yet as the last terrorists were being rooted out of
Nairobi�s Westgate shopping mall at the end of a slaughter spree that
has killed some 70 people and injured hundreds more, the Kenyan
authorities need to be asking themselves some hard questions.<br> <br>
This is a country which because it is actively involved in combating
Al-Shabab terrorists in Somalia is supposed to be on the very highest
state of alert. Kenya did not choose this confrontation. In 1998 it was
an amiably corrupt and easygoing country with merely a nasty record of
armed robberies, mostly of rich Western tourists.<br> <br> Then Al-Qaeda
launched one of its very first international attacks, a deadly assault
on the US embassy in the Kenyan capital which left 224 people dead the
great majority of them Kenyans. Thereafter, there was a succession of
small attacks by the Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Shabab which culminated in raids
on Kenyan coastal tourist resorts and a Somali refugee camp, targeting
and kidnapping foreigners.<br> <br> It was the final straw. Nairobi sent
troops into Somali striking Al-Shabab fighters in the rear as they were
pressed from the north by African Union forces. Thereafter, the
terrorists resorted to low-level violence, mostly hit and run grenade
attacks across the Somali border, until the attack by some 15 heavily
armed men on the supposedly well-guarded up-market Westgate shopping
center. The attackers managed to negotiate their way with all their
weaponry through the capital�s roadblocks. They contrived to organize
their deadly assault without the Kenyan intelligence services picking up
the slightest inkling of what was about to happen.<br> <br> Something
has got to be wrong somewhere. And the closer one looks at the way the
tragic events unfolded, the more difficult questions it seems that the
Kenyan authorities have to answer. Why for instance did it take almost
half an hour for the first properly armed and equipped teams to arrive
at the shopping mall? Why was there no proper building evacuation
scheme nor any obvious plan to respond to a terrorist outrage within the
complex?<br> <br> Acts of bravery by shopping center staff, individual
police officers and ordinary members of the public cannot mask what
appears to have been a series of bungles by all those who should have
been responsible for the safety of the complex and its visitors.
Journalists noted that when heavily-armed special forces arrived, some
seemed nervous and confused, perhaps as a result of the shouting that
could be heard from senior officers who themselves seemed poorly briefed
and unprepared and as a result unsure of how best to proceed. The
inevitable report into this horrific event may find that by delaying a
rapid and firm response to the attack, the authorities permitted the
terrorists to continue their killing spree and also allowed them to
consolidate their position within the mall.<br> <br> Perhaps a clue to
what went so disastrously wrong at the Westgate mall can be found in the
devastating fire at Nairobi�s Jomo Kenyatta International Airport last
month. Though the blaze broke out in the early morning, meaning no one
was killed, the extent of the fire and the extraordinary delays in
getting fire appliances to the scene raised major questions about the
competence of the Kenyan authorities. The Westgate tragedy must
compound these serious concerns.</font></span></div></span></h5><div class="ecxclearfix"><div class="ecxuiCommentContainer"><div class="ecxfbTimelineUFI">
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