<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="line-height:1.3em">Listers,</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em">The Ag. CEO for the animal ICTA its only three years;, after which, one of the Listers will be in line to be interviewed and take to the helm (hoping)</span></div>
<div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em">'as <span dir="auto">John D. Rockefeller, Jr. put it "</span><strong>'I believe that the law was made for man and not man for the law; that government is the servant of the people and not their master. "</strong></span></div>
<div></div><span style="line-height:1.3em"><div>'as Leo Tolstoy put it- “<strong>Writing laws is easy, but governing is difficult</strong>.” </div><div><br>'as Walter Savage Landor said "" <strong>Many laws as certainly make bad men, as bad men make many laws</strong>.” </div>
<div> </div><div>Reagrds</div><div>Judy<br>― </div></span><div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div><div><span style="line-height:1.3em"></span> </div>
<div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Davis Onsakia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mautidavis@gmail.com" target="_blank">mautidavis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The constitution is very clear; public participation is not optional. Any other legal instrument in conflict to the law is null and void to that extent, as Hussein has pointed out!<div>
<br></div><div>Hence the law must be followed to the letter. This is good for the appointee and everybody else.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Best Regards,<br>Davis M Onsakia<br>"One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."<br></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 6 September 2013 09:42, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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<div dir="auto"><div>Point noted Walu.<div><br><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div>
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<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 6, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold"></span></b>Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><font> w<font>rote,</font></font></font><br>
@John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in court
but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of the
law. <br><div>~~~~~~~<br></div><div>The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to apply...(discrimination)</div>
<div> <br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by extension the appointment becomes null and void.</div>
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Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the same destination. <br>
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We did this successfully for our
Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-)<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">walu.<br><span></span></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>"
<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication and Technology leadership<br>
</font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div>@Kivuva</div><div><br></div><div>You are quite right.</div><div><br></div><div>@Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '<b>The end justifies the means'. :)</b></div><div><br>
</div><div>@John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of the law. <br><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Ali Hussein</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">
<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span></div>
<div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know</span><br><span>his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is</span><br><span>just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and</span><br>
<span>de-merits of Dr. Victor
Kyalo?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back</span><br><span>by diplomacy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding</span><br>
<span>this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and</span><br><span>INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>Listers</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and institutional</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for this. He</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political savvy ness</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to navigate this new monster called the ICTA.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the results.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali
Hussein</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <<a href="mailto:judym.muli@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">judym.muli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Listers,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and forge a</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>united front.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Judy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga
<<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks Walu.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary</span><br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already posted</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the article on its site and you never know if it is considering following</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>up on the matter.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidential-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourced-ict-authority-boss" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidential-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourced-ict-authority-boss</a></span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the</span><br></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>determined by the courts.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog
next</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Rgds</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>GG</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">jwalu@yahoo.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Communication and Technology leadership</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@GG</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous CEO of</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the ICT Board was
expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with the</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>notable development of the new constitution (2010).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br></div></div><div class="im">
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