<div dir="ltr">Maybe the chinese are the lowest bidders? And if a forward thinking guy attempts to award a local company at higher rates he is accused of corruption. And lets not forget our cowboy contractors that go unpunished. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kivuva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is a very sad state of affairs.<b> "there is no technology transfer from the foreign vendor to young African Engineers.". </b><span style="line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Most of the vendors are Chinese, including Huawei, ZTE and China International Telecommunication Construction Company (CITCC) who use Chinese expertise for all the high-tech aspects of the projects. In a number of cases maintenance manuals are written in Chinese to ensure that Africans are forever dependent on the Chinese even for the most basic of network maintenance chores.</span><div>
<br></div><div>The current flow of our hard earned Capital from Kenya to China should be arrested. After giving Chinese <span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thika_Road" target="_blank">Ksh 27 billion (US$ 330,000,000)</a> for Thika road, I don't expect the same Chinese to be given the </span><span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"> </span><span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamu_Port_and_Lamu-Southern_Sudan-Ethiopia_Transport_Corridor" target="_blank">KSh. 2.5 trillion ($29.24 billion)</a> for the </span><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px">LAPSSET project. There should have been enough knowledge transfer to Kenyans so that that Capital remains within the </span></font><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.18402862548828px">confines</span></font><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px"> of our borders by local companies doing the works.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px">I am still asking why the 22 story University of Nairobi Tower is being build by <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/University+of+Nairobi+set+to+expand+facilities+with+Sh2bn+tower/-/539550/1855598/-/11orer/-/index.html" target="_blank">Chinese</a></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif">Regards</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva<br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br><div>google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh</div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 5 September 2013 09:13, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif">To all<br>
We are investing so much in educating our child in ICT related field and it is the High time Kenya and Africa Believed in ourself If we miss it in ICT we miss it all<br>
Jane<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jane Muriuki <<a href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September
5, 2013 5:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] Africa IT Jobs Outsourced to China – Africa May Become Perpetually Dependent on China for Certain Skills<br> </font> </div> <div><div>
<div><br><div><div><div>Listers</div><div><br></div><div>This is an interesting article and if there is any truth abut this then we are really in trouble.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=10646" target="_blank">http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=10646</a></span><br>
<br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Can we learn from the Chinese? Most of their most celebrated companies 'learned & borrowed' from the West when they won big infrastructure and other contracts in China. This was a deliberate policy move
orchestrated by the Chinese Government.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">When are we going to stop this vicious cycle of being consumer countries? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">When are we going to regain the glory days of the great African empires the likes of the Ancient Egyptian Empire and the Kingdom of Mali? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Innovation and invention, contrary to popular belief isn't and wasn't the preserve of the West and the East. </span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375</div><div><span><br></span></div>
<div>
<span>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span></div><div><br></div><span>Sent from my iPad</span></div></div></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
kictanet mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>
<br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
<br>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
<br></div> </div> </div> </div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
kictanet mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>
<br></div></div>
Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com</a><div class="im">
<br>
<br>
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
<br>
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
kictanet mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>
<br>
Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mwangy%40gmail.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mwangy%40gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
<br>
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Regards,<br><br>Mark Mwangi<br><br><a href="http://markmwangi.me.ke" target="_blank">markmwangi.me.ke</a><br><br><br><br><br>
</div>