<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I believe we need to be more analytical of a situation, the 27 billion was total project value most of which was spent locally, the same project if done by the old team of local contractors would have cost 3 times the price and we would still be at Ngara roundabout.<br><br>Technology transferred is not like a loaf of bread, let us go out there to the project sites (the local sites as sitting on our butts will not help) and interact with the Chinese, Indian, Japanese and any other foreign company that has won a project.<br><br>We are the ones who are disinterested in learning and instead prefer to twit and twist waiting for a knowledge capsule, I participated in a construction tender where the foreign company that won was 20% cheaper than the second tenderer. <br><br>Instead of trying to find out how they were able to quote so low
most of the companies that lost went off to the press complaining about expected shoddy workmanship, bribes (how they did that and still charge less than the local companies is impressive), to cut a long story short, they completed the project on budget, on time and met all the quality requirements.<br><br>So before we start accusing and blaming others let us carry our an in depth analysis of the situation, you will be surprised what you will find out.<br><br>Regards<div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya</div><div><br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696</div><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Kivuva
<Kivuva@transworldafrica.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 5 September 2013, 9:55<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Africa IT Jobs Outsourced to China – Africa May Become Perpetually Dependent on China for Certain Skills<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6058627724"><div dir="ltr">This is a very sad state of affairs.<b> "there is no technology transfer from the foreign vendor to young African Engineers.". </b><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;">Most of the vendors are Chinese, including Huawei, ZTE and China International Telecommunication Construction
Company (CITCC) who use Chinese expertise for all the high-tech aspects of the projects. In a number of cases maintenance manuals are written in Chinese to ensure that Africans are forever dependent on the Chinese even for the most basic of network maintenance chores.</span><div>
<br></div><div>The current flow of our hard earned Capital from Kenya to China should be arrested. After giving Chinese <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thika_Road">Ksh 27 billion (US$ 330,000,000)</a> for Thika road, I don't expect the same Chinese to be given the </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamu_Port_and_Lamu-Southern_Sudan-Ethiopia_Transport_Corridor">KSh. 2.5 trillion ($29.24 billion)</a> for the </span><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px;">LAPSSET project. There should have been enough knowledge transfer to Kenyans so that
that Capital remains within the </span></font><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.18402862548828px;">confines</span></font><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px;"> of our borders by local companies doing the works.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19.1875px;">I am still asking why the 22 story University of Nairobi Tower is being build by <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/University+of+Nairobi+set+to+expand+facilities+with+Sh2bn+tower/-/539550/1855598/-/11orer/-/index.html">Chinese</a></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif">Regards</font></div></div><div class="yiv6058627724gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva<br>
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<br><br><div class="yiv6058627724gmail_quote">On 5 September 2013 09:13, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv6058627724gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;">To all<br>We are investing so much in educating our child in ICT related field and it is the High time Kenya and Africa Believed in ourself If we miss it in ICT we miss it all<br>
Jane<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Jane Muriuki <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nnfeischools@yahoo.com">nnfeischools@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September
5, 2013 5:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] Africa IT Jobs Outsourced to China – Africa May Become Perpetually Dependent on China for Certain Skills<br> </font> </div> <div><div>
<div class="yiv6058627724h5"><br><div><div><div>Listers</div><div><br></div><div>This is an interesting article and if there is any truth abut this then we are really in trouble.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=10646">http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=10646</a></span><br>
<br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Can we learn from the Chinese? Most of their most celebrated companies 'learned & borrowed' from the West when they won big infrastructure and other contracts in China. This was a deliberate policy move
orchestrated by the Chinese Government.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">When are we going to stop this vicious cycle of being consumer countries? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">When are we going to regain the glory days of the great African empires the likes of the Ancient Egyptian Empire and the Kingdom of Mali? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Innovation and invention, contrary to popular belief isn't and wasn't the preserve of the West and the East. </span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">
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