<div dir="ltr">Hmm, answers inline:<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.<br>
<br></div>1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>True ... but if the US one is waning to the point where they're not laying anymore than that's a good signal that it's a dying technology�</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave)<br>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Agreed.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</div>3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>That's worth some but that cable is not nearly as valuable as EASSy or SEACOM and the ownership is 17% according to this article which may be dated (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEAMS_(cable_system)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEAMS_(cable_system)</a>�</div>
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</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>That seems more like a duty than a right. �If they make too much money from it, CCK or GoK will reassign the right to another company. �How long is that contract for?�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div></div>5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges)<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Agreed�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</div>6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world</div></div></blockquote><div>I presume those licenses can be reassigned by CCK but of course they're valuable if the spectrum is usable by the mobile operators ... but they're not really valuable since a fifth mobile operator license has been denied by GoK ...�</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Best regards,<br><br>Brian<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adam@varud.com" target="_blank">adam@varud.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. �It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/</a><br clear="all">
<div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom</div><div><br></div><div>-Adam</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government<br>
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