<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">@Muraya,<br><br>I used to think Android is "open"? Meaning the comparison to Windows would not be appropriate in that if someone sneaked in spy-software in Android, I (and many others) can sniff it out, but if someone sneaked in some spy software in Windows, only Microsoft and perhaps the US govt would know?<br><br>Incidentally what @Ikua raises in not far-fetched. In 2010, it is widely believed the US /Israeli Governments unleashed a worm called "stuxnet" that chewed up the Iranian nuclear plants to a halt. The mode of delivery is also widely believed as being through one of the many regular Windows updates that we so faithfully do every week or month over the net.<br><br>In other words, most Listers here and across the globe do have the "stuxnet" worm on their machines but it is in sleep mode simply because their
organisations do not run nuclear reactors with specific circuitry. This worm was clever enough to only wake up upon sensing certain "signature" frequencies originating from certain circuitry that was dominant in Iranian nuclear reactors.<br><br>Obviously only Microsoft could be able to see the additional logic/payload in that particular update. Contrast this to updates whose code is "open"...<br><br>For those technically inclined, you can pick up the story @<br><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet<br><br>walu. <br><br> <br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">To:</span></b> jwalu@yahoo.com <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 26, 2013 4:12 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Is Windows 8 a Trojan horse for the NSA? The German Government thinks so<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0279129456"><div dir="ltr">If we worry about 200 Million Windows 8.1 PCs (by 2015) how about 1 Billion mobile devices running Android by 2015?</div><div class="yiv0279129456gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Blessings</div><div>
<br></div><div>Murigi / Stanley Muraya</div><div><br></div><div><span style="line-height:13px;color:rgb(0,19,32);font-family:Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(253,254,255);"><span style="background-color:rgb(253,254,255);"><span style="line-height:20px;"><font size="1"><b>"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32</b></font></span><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(253,254,255);"><br>
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<br><br><div class="yiv0279129456gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Evans Ikua <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com">ikua.evans@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv0279129456gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>The German Government is now deeply suspicious that the Trusted
Platform Module (TPM) technology built into a growing number of Windows 8
PCs and tablets is creating a gigantic back door for NSA surveillance,
leaked documents have suggested.</div>
<div>Documents from the German Ministry of Economic Affairs <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa/seite-1">obtained by German title <i>Zeit Online</i></a>
uncover the alleged unease of officials at the direction of version 2.0
of the standard being developed under the auspices of the multi-vendor
Trusted Computing Group (TCG).</div>
<div>TPM has been marketed as a security and Digital Rights Management
(DRM) technology since its appearance in 2006, but version 2.0 would
embed a chip on every PC that has complete control over which programs
can and can’t run, a setting that can’t be over-ridden under Windows 8.
The chip is also where the cryptographic data is stored for Windows
BitLocker and it enables remote administration.</div><br><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://news.techworld.com/security/3465259/is-windows-8-trojan-horse-for-nsa-german-government-thinks-so/#tk.nl_win">Please read more here</a><span class="yiv0279129456HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
<br>-- <br><b>----------------------------------------------------<br>Kind Regards,<br>Evans Ikua,</b><br>
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