<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Digital TV<br><div><span></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 14 June 2013,
13:08<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Day 5 : Ensuring Effective Implementation of the
Laptop Project - The Key Variables (Day 5:Wrap up and Way Forward (Key
declarations, what next)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4936398357"><div dir="ltr">We agree on good teachers. What if there are no good teachers (available)?<div><br></div><div>What if many teachers in rural areas prefer to farm/trade during the day?</div><div><br></div><div>Many children will fall behind in their education, whether they have e-readers or not.<br>
</div><div><div><br></div><div style="">With e-readers, some gifted children can learn a little on their own, while we seek good teachers.<br></div></div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div></div><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Warigia Bowman <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:warigia@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warigia@gmail.com">warigia@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Dear Muraya<div><br></div><div>I think this is the point where you and I differ. I myself am a teacher. If there are no good teachers, find a good teacher. That is the priority. After they have a good teacher, we get an e-reader. </div>
<div><br></div><div>It is cheaper, more cost effective and more efficient to have a human being teach 20 students, then to give a class of clueless children a laptop. </div><div><br></div><div>In fact, I guess that 90 percent of the people on this list, including myself, did not have a computer growing up. I did not start using computers until my masters, yet, I am literate and can conduct multivariable calculus. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind regards. </div><span class="yiv4936398357HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Warigia</div></font></span></div><div class="yiv4936398357HOEnZb"><div class="yiv4936398357h5"><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:42 PM, S.M. Muraya <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">My view, is the children should get <u>rugged</u> e-readers.<div><br><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gigaom.com/2012/04/27/worldreader-kids-e-readers-kindles/">http://gigaom.com/2012/04/27/worldreader-kids-e-readers-kindles/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Yesterday, the 2013/2014 .KE Budget mentioned allocations for building labs in primary schools.<div><br></div><div>Some of our children in rural areas will gain more from e-learning than they will from their teachers.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This does not exclude the need for good teachers, but in some places, there are no good teachers.</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>:)</div></div><div><div><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra">
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<br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Warigia Bowman <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:warigia@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warigia@gmail.com">warigia@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Dear Muraya<div><br></div><div>I simply am saying, that we must prioritize electricity supply and decent classrooms. I am not opposed to laptops in classrooms per se, but I think they are a gimmick, if we do not ensure that students are getting an excellent analog education first. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I like the lab idea. </div><div><br></div><div>I like involving country governments and NEMA in waste disposal. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM, S.M. Muraya <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Ms.Warigia,</div>
<div>Should we limit the devices (not necessarily laptops) only to areas with good electricity supply + decent classrooms?</div>
<div>Very few decent libraries exist in Kenya after books are vandalized and not replaced. Maybe why we could do with e-readers.</div>
<div>Every school should have a lab/workshop or volunteers to assist with repairs. Laptop or tablet maintenance, should earn IT college students credits in their programs.</div>
<div>Electronic waste disposal, should involve county governments and NEMA for (well specified) direction.</div>
<div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote"><div><div>On Jun 14, 2013 10:07 AM, "Warigia Bowman" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:warigia@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:warigia@gmail.com">warigia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">For the laptop program to truly be effective, we must ensure first, that all primary school supplements are disbursed by the government in a timely manner, so that children can start learning, irrespective of socio-economic status. <div>
<br></div><div>Let me reiterate my concern that until we get the basics right, laptops wont improve matters. <br><div><br></div><div>Second, we must ensure that students are learning in appropriate surroundings. Are buildings present, clean and safe? Is some kind of rudimentary library available? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Third, we must ensure that teacher training is at adequate levels in basic topics. </div><div><br></div><div>Fourth, without electricity, all of this laptop mania is pointless. Are steady streams of electricity available at implementation sites? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Fifth, is Internet freely available at implementation sites? Who is paying for the Internet? </div><div><br></div><div>Sixth, is there a clear curriculum? </div><div><br></div>
<div>Seventh, are teachers and students being trained on the proper care, and maintenance of equipment? </div><div><br></div><div>Finally, is there an environmentally appropriate means of disposal, refurbishment, and recycling when laptops reach the end of their life cycle. </div>
</div></div><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Victor Gathara <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vgathara@vimak.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:vgathara@vimak.co.ke">vgathara@vimak.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Barack,<div><br></div><div>I think its fair to say that most IT projects that fail really do so as a result of project management failure so a strong project (or programme?) management function needs to be built into this project. </div>
<div><br></div><div>As an example there is the question of quality assurance. How will we ensure that the project delivers a quality 'product'? Also how will success (or failure) of the project will be measured? I think its important that an objective quality assessment be done at regular points in the project life-cycle to monitor progress and introduce changes if required. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If it is rolled out as a project then it really must have an end (when the project closed down and hands over to the operational regime where laptops are just as essential in classroom as textbooks)...It would be important to work out what that regime would be...<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Victor</div></div><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote"><div><div>On 13 June 2013 23:46, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="yiv4936398357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Listers,<br><br></div>Many thanks to all who have contributed to this weeks discussion the threads are still open, today we discuss any issues that are significant to the project and that may have been overlooked, the discussion is open.<br>
<br><br></div>Best Regards<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div><br>-- <br>Barrack O. Otieno<div>+254721325277</div><div>+254-20-2498789<br>Skype: barrack.otieno</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a>
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