<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>LOL. True that...in a sort of way..<br><br><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 713 601113</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:46 PM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">They already own Telkom<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:40<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 73, Issue 16<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7458697551"><div><div>Robert</div><div><br></div><div>There are unique Private Equity Funds that would probably buy. They are called Vulture Funds. <br><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Ali Hussein</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span></div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;">+254 713 601113</div><div><span style=""><br></span></div><div><span style="">"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian
Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jun 5, 2013, at 10:21 AM, robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">Onchari,<br><br>Would you buy shares of Telkom if they were offered to you?<br><br>The NSE is not a dumping ground for non-performing companies.<br><br>Regards<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Edwin Onchari <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b>
KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 20:59<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 73, Issue 16<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv7458697551y_msg_container"><br>Telkom Kenya and France should relinquish their shareholding to less than<br>30%, and allow private equity (through NSE listing) to own the remaining 70%<br>and get a competent team to run the corporation. Makes no sense why the<br>organization is making losses with the sort of infrastructure and asset base<br>it enjoys. Staff within the organization are both demoralized and lack<br>requisite skills to turn this elephant to profitability.<br><br>Edwin<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
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and should the Government bail<br> it out? Again? (Ali Hussein)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:04:23 +0300<br>From: Barrack Otieno <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Phares Kariuki <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Is Telkom Kenya insolvent and should the<br> Government bail it out? Again?<br>Message-ID:<br>
<CAKX6dsFEhQFyV+LP3WgMv_5i_VT0R6PeXawnZ0O8U556aKZ=<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:aA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:aA@mail.gmail.com">aA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>You nailed it Phares, exactly!<br><br><br>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Phares Kariuki <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Not so
simple?<br>><br>> Telkom Kenya (at some point between 2006/2007), was East Africa's <br>> largest company by assets?<br>><br>> Even if Orange was shortchanged by 300M USD, there are still <br>> significant real estate holdings (all the telephone exchanges - the <br>> land they have etc etc).<br>><br>> These are assets which were bought with public cash. It's a tricky <br>> situation where the government either throws good money after what is <br>> potentially a bad investment or the government lets Telkom die (with a <br>> significant investment of our tax money)? Simply letting the <br>> organization go, might cost the country more in terms of asset loss?<br>><br>><br>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson wrote:<br>><br>> IMHO, the easy solution is for the government to divest its share and <br>> let the market take care of the rest. Landlines and fixed data <br>>
connections no longer require government support and if the company <br>> fails, it's not a big problem since Telkom is not a critical resource<br>(unlike KPLC).<br>><br>> ---<br>> OpenStack for Africa: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://signup.kili.io/">http://signup.kili.io</a><br>> Musings: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/varud">https://twitter.com/varud</a><br>> About Adam: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson">https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson</a><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Barrack Otieno<br><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>><br>> Ali,<br>><br>> I think Telkoms problems are deliberate, there is no way such an <br>> institution can be crippled without a deliberate move and
sheer <br>> ignorance this is where we call for accountability, there must
be <br>> someone smiling somewhere over its misfortunes. Sometimes Business is <br>> common sense, you reap what you sow, we need to know who was the sower <br>> in this case?, what was sowed and who reaped where because public <br>> money was pumped into this organization. We also need to have a public <br>> audit of its asset base and what really transpired when the organization<br>was downsizing.<br>><br>> Best Regards<br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Listers<br>><br>> The trials and tribulations of Telkom Kenya are a sad chapter in the <br>> country's road towards actualization of Vision 2030.<br>><br>> What actually ails Telkom Kenya?<br>><br>> What is the real reason behind its inability to leverage on its legacy
<br>> systems to re-invent its
business model?<br>><br>> Is one of the problems the fact that the Government shackled it with a <br>> nondescript, pedestrian workforce steeped in Moi era non-performance <br>> ethos?<br>><br>> Are there forces beyond the powers of the Management of Telkom Kenya <br>> (like Mpesa maybe?) that has made it so irrelevant in the scheme of<br>things?<br>><br>> In my humble opinion this has been a failed exercise in privatization.<br>><br>> What did we do right in the Government divestiture of Safaricom in <br>> comparison to Telkom Kenya?<br>><br>><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Taxpayers-face-Sh6bn-bill-in-foul-share-d">http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Taxpayers-face-Sh6bn-bill-in-foul-share-d</a><br>> eal/-/1056/1870526/-/item/0/-/ign3ff/-/index.htmlu<br>><br>> Ali Hussein<br>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>> Principal | Telemedia Africa
Ltd<br>><br>>
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times and <br>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, <br>> respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>><br><br><br><br>--<br>Barrack O. Otieno<br>+254721325277<br>+254-20-2498789<br>Skype: barrack.otieno<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20130604/d967df">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20130604/d967df</a><br>21/attachment-0001.html><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:09:39 +0300<br>From: Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>To:
Barrack Otieno <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Is Telkom Kenya insolvent and should the<br> Government bail it out? Again?<br>Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:2A3E4FD8-3C8D-4BBB-97EA-F7520327C6F7@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:2A3E4FD8-3C8D-4BBB-97EA-F7520327C6F7@hussein.me.ke">2A3E4FD8-3C8D-4BBB-97EA-F7520327C6F7@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I disagree..there are definitely assets within Telkom Kenya. The question is<br>whether those assets are pertinent to the success of a Telco. Definitely
not<br>all of them are.<br><br>May be the Government should cut its losses and divest fully from Telkom<br>Kenya.
Certainly it doesn't make sense anymore for Governments to own a<br>piece of a Telco. If it wants to continue to maintain its Big Brother role<br>in the name of National Security it doesn't need to own a Telco. Just ask<br>Google and AT&T and other Telcos in the US. <br><br>Ali Hussein<br>CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd<br><br>+254 713 601113<br><br>"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb<br><br>Sent from my iPad<br><br>On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Barrack Otieno <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> You nailed it Phares, exactly!<br>> <br>> <br>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Phares Kariuki <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>> Not so simple? <br>>> <br>>> Telkom
Kenya (at some point between 2006/2007), was East Africa's largest<br>company by assets? <br>>> <br>>> Even if Orange was shortchanged by 300M USD, there are still significant<br>real estate holdings (all the telephone exchanges - the land they have etc<br>etc). <br>>> <br>>> These are assets which were bought with public cash. It's a tricky<br>situation where the government either throws good money after what is<br>potentially a bad investment or the government lets Telkom die (with a<br>significant investment of our tax money)? Simply letting the organization<br>go, might cost the country more in terms of asset loss? <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson wrote:<br>>>> IMHO, the easy solution is for the government to divest its share and<br>let the market take care of the rest. Landlines and fixed data connections<br>no longer require government support and
if the company fails, it's not a<br>big problem since Telkom is not a critical resource (unlike KPLC).<br>>>> <br>>>> ---<br>>>> OpenStack for Africa: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://signup.kili.io/">http://signup.kili.io</a><br>>>> Musings: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/varud">https://twitter.com/varud</a><br>>>> About Adam: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson">https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson</a><br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Barrack Otieno<br><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>> Ali,<br>>>>> <br>>>>> I think Telkoms problems are deliberate, there is no way such an<br>institution can be crippled
without a deliberate move and sheer ignorance<br>this is where we call for
accountability, there must be someone smiling<br>somewhere over its misfortunes. Sometimes Business is common sense, you reap<br>what you sow, we need to know who was the sower in this case?, what was<br>sowed and who reaped where because public money was pumped into this<br>organization. We also need to have a public audit of its asset base and what<br>really transpired when the organization was downsizing.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Best Regards<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>> Listers<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> The trials and tribulations of Telkom Kenya are a sad chapter in the<br>country's road towards actualization of Vision 2030.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>>
What actually ails Telkom Kenya?
<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> What is the real reason behind its inability to leverage on its legacy<br>systems to re-invent its business model?<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Is one of the problems the fact that the Government shackled it with a<br>nondescript, pedestrian workforce steeped in Moi era non-performance ethos?<br><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Are there forces beyond the powers of the Management of Telkom Kenya<br>(like Mpesa maybe?) that has made it so irrelevant in the scheme of things? <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> In my humble opinion this has been a failed exercise in privatization.<br><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> What did we do right in the Government divestiture of Safaricom in<br>comparison to Telkom Kenya? <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Taxpayers-face-Sh6bn-bill-in-foul-sha">http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Taxpayers-face-Sh6bn-bill-in-foul-sha</a><br>>>>>> re-deal/-/1056/1870526/-/item/0/-/ign3ff/-/index.htmlu<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Ali Hussein<br>>>>>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>>>>>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> +254 713 601113<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian <br>>>>>> Proverb<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Sent from my iPad<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> kictanet mailing list<br>>>>>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>>>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at <br>>>>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barra">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barra</a><br>>>>>> ck%<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://40gmail.com/">40gmail.com</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder<br>platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy<br>and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT<br>sector in support
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