<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>These are interesting times.......<br><br>Regards,<div><br></div><div>Gilda Odera</div></div><div><br>On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Mark Mwangi <<a href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I am not for the idea of closing up industries to purely insiders. The lethargy and infighting and loss of focus can only be detrimental. For instance the holder of the highest office of the land is the commandeer in chief of the armed forces. I have not heard or seen him serve for the military before yet he is expected to lead us into battle. Ofcourse he will need able and competent bureacrats within the rank and file to advise him. <div>
<br></div><div style="">I expect the same goes for the cabinet secretaries. Being a trained doctor does not necessarily mean you are best placed to lead a ministry. Let us not forget that Cabinet secretaries are negotiators and implementors o broader overarching goals. </div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">lawyers have however managed to clam their profession shut to outsiders. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Edith Adera <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Bwana Ndemo is also an industrial economist – he may be chosen as PS for another Ministry – entrepreneurship?, industrialization? etc. Bwana Ndemo is on the PS list in Nation
today, ready for Interview as PS – he can tell us his choice – as I guess you have to indicate your choice. Or is it a pool, from where they will chose?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As for the New Cabinet Secretary, I don’t envy him as the ICT industry stakeholders are known not to keep quiet….so he has a tough job ahead. He will need a strong PS and
great technical people below him to deliver in this dynamic industry where the stakeholders will speak loudly, if unhappy – esp. via KICTANET list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I wish him well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> April 24, 2013 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edith Adera</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; <a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move? <a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm</a><u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">@Gilda, not entirely accurate, Dr. Ndemo’s Masters degree is in<b> MIS</b> (management information systems) from the University of St.Thomas, Minnesota.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:33 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move? <a href="http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">@Barrack I think you go it wrong. If my knowledge serves me well,
<span style="background:yellow">neither a demo nor Kagwe were ICT experts when appointed as PS</span>. But they had the intellectual capacity and drive to run with it. They consulted widely and went out of their way to hear and learn. That
is what is required, not necessarily an ICT expert. <br>
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On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" target="_blank">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">While there is a legit cause for aligning the ministries to the people who are running them, it is important that we don't think inside the box - that is the ICT Secretary should be a ICT
expert. It can be anybody who the constitution so points out.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 23 April 2013 19:41, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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slow down or lose out on the gains we have achieved in the last couple of years, i wonder what listers think. As a public we also have an obligation to vet the nominees.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">2. The nominee appears to be a governance expert as opposed to an Information and Communications Technology expert, will he inspire the ICT community to move to the next frontiers the way
Kagwe, Poghisio and Ndemo did? This are some of the concerns i have whilst respecting the Presidents Choice, what do others think? Let us collect our views as an ICT community, i am willing to consolidate them and then we submit to the necessary Parliamentary
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