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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can we get ALL Governors and Jubilee team on the KICTANET list so they also hear from the ICT horses’ mouths as it seems ICT will play a critical role in the
country henceforth!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Mbugua<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 23, 2013 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edith Adera<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Posta Kenya closes 56 outlets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While we wait for the light bulb moment, can CCK fast track the issue of physical addresses and can County governments perhaps be roped in to help with this so that Posta can start delivering to our homes. Mucheru of Google is here they
have the data on most streets its just to now get landlords and home owners to register with Posta to get official addresses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some counties like mine, Kiambu, we can volunteer to pilot this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">JG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:44 PM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Daktari,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You know my consistent stand on the issue of PCK (thanks Walu for bringing the typo to my attention) which is that retrenchment is not the solution what we need is to get them to work and this can only happen by increasing the volume of
parcel traffic going through the post office.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is criminal to find a private company being allowed to setup shop within the premises of a government office to provide letter and parcel delivery while the same government keeps complaining about no work for its wholly owned company
(visit Afya Centre).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is clear from the debacle with Telkom and Kenya Railways that retrenchment is not the solution therefore why would the ministry make a similar proposal to the cabinet for PCK, if I was in cabinet even I would reject the request.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">DHL has introduced an agency model around the country, they are mainly targeting cyber cafes (not waiting for the elusive Pasha centers) a model that PCK had tried to implement with the PostaSurf model which was frustrated by the board.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS. Please search through my other posts on PCK to get a more thorough appreciation of my position (<a href="http://www.kictanet.or.ke/?s=robert+yawe+pck" target="_blank">http://www.kictanet.or.ke/?s=robert+yawe+pck</a>) also read the
report presented to you by IBM on how to revive PCK.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" target="_blank">+254722511225</a>,
<a href="tel:%2B254202010696" target="_blank">+254202010696</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Bitange Ndemo <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 22 April 2013, 19:34<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Posta Kenya closes 56 outlets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Robert,<br>
I am not clueless as you may think. We have done restructuring proposals<br>
to Cabinet before but one needs approval to proceed. You recall the<br>
problem we went through Telkom. We had to retrench more than 16,000<br>
employees. There were only 400 graduates in a staff compliment of 19,000.<br>
Posta is in even a worse situation. With a staff compliment of close to<br>
6,000, you need in excess of 8 billion to retrench. You do not undertake<br>
such drastic moves without political will. In my view you are being<br>
simplistic on this issue. We shall take many years to sought out the mess<br>
created during KPTC time.<br>
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This however is not an excuse not to do anything. There are reforms going<br>
on albeit slowly. You will need serious support from both the executive<br>
and parliament to implement sustainable interventions.<br>
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Regards<br>
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Ndemo.<br>
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> Hi Edith,<br>
><br>
> It is interesting that you bring this up as it goes back to the key issue<br>
> here that we in ICT have absolutely no understanding or appreciation of<br>
> how relevant PSK is to delivering e-commerce and until that happens the<br>
> organisation will continue on a down hill spiral finally embedding itself<br>
> in the ground.<br>
><br>
> What is even worse is that Dr. Ndemo is even more clueless than the<br>
> current PMG about the relevance if PSK in delivering e-commerce solutions<br>
> which is clear from their statements about how email is replacing the<br>
> services offered by the postal service which cannot be any further from<br>
> the truth. <br>
><br>
> I always ask, once I have ordered a pair of shoes online and made the<br>
> payment electronically exactly how does the shoe get to me? Until 3D<br>
> printers becoming cheaper than a DVD player there is only one answer to<br>
> the question especially if your target market is Kenya (note: Nairobi is<br>
> not Kenya).<br>
><br>
> The new PMG believes that the future of PSK is in payment systems a field<br>
> that even the banks have realised "iko na wenyewe", which is why they have<br>
> dumped all initiatives to jump in bed with the owners of money transfer<br>
> and payment a.k.a. Safaricom. <br>
><br>
> I have been watching DHL closely as they introduce an agency module for<br>
> there services, as PSK reduces locations DHL increases theirs which begs<br>
> the question who is the fool here?. A company called Aramex has recently<br>
> received a huge capital injection by a Dubai based investor to develop<br>
> their delivery network in Kenya all this while PSK management, including<br>
> the board of which Dr. Ndemo is a member, run around trying to go into a<br>
> field that they have neither the skill nor experience.<br>
><br>
> It is my sincere hope that the rumour about UhuRuto wanting the Cabinet<br>
> Secretaries and Principle Secretaries should be under 50 comes to pass<br>
> then maybe we can have a team that is open to new ideas and does more than<br>
> regurgitate statements.<br>
><br>
> I reiterate again, PSK is a sleeping giant who is being kept sedated by<br>
> small minded players in the courier industry.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> PS. UPS is dying because of legislative handcuffing and the same<br>
> sedating that PSK is suffering<br>
><br>
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> Â <br>
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> Robert Yawe<br>
> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> Kenya<br>
><br>
><br>
> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" target="_blank">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" target="_blank">
+254202010696</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 8:45<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Posta Kenya closes 56 outlets<br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
> Robert Yawe has been campaigning for this job for over 2 years – why not<br>
> challenge him to run it and prove himself? I’m sure Bwana Ndemo is being<br>
> considered for Cabinet Secretary – ICT, please keep this in mind.<br>
> Â <br>
> Edith<br>
> Â <br>
> From:kictanet<br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+eadera</a>=<a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
> Sent: April 22, 2013 5:06 AM<br>
> To: Edith Adera<br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: [kictanet] Posta Kenya closes 56 outlets<br>
> Â <br>
> Listers<br>
> Â <br>
> Hidden among the statistics released by CCK is the state of Posta Kenya. <br>
> Â <br>
> <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Postal-Kenya-closes-56-outlets-as-business-falls/-/539550/1754446/-/ppm2vtz/-/index.html" target="_blank">
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Postal-Kenya-closes-56-outlets-as-business-falls/-/539550/1754446/-/ppm2vtz/-/index.html</a><br>
> Â <br>
> Yet despite the dire straits the state corporation seems to be in it still<br>
> could reinvent itself. Posta is in dire need of re-inventing itself ala<br>
> Deutsche Post which reverse took-over DHL and benefited from its logistics<br>
> and savvy managerial skills. Is the semi-privatization of Posta Kenya<br>
> imminent? Is it the only thing that can save it? Should the<br>
> Government/Posta seriously look at this option? I dare say we must move<br>
> poste haste (pun intended) or be confined to the fate of the US Postal<br>
> Service which seems incapable of getting out of its morose state.<br>
> Â <br>
> The article below Wikipedia gives a good background to the Deutsche Post<br>
> story.<br>
> Â <br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Post" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Post</a><br>
> Â <br>
> Â <br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>
> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd<br>
> Â <br>
> <a href="tel:%2B254%20713%20601113" target="_blank">+254 713 601113</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb<br>
> Â <br>
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