<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div>Been reading the debates. For some reason some of my emails did not get here. Just to comment on Walu's mail on the short timeline. Sorry to play devil's advocate but aren't some of these actions deliberate? If not, what possible good explanation can there be for doing such important things in the last minute?<br><br>Regards,<div><br></div><div>Gilda Odera</div></div><div><br>On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:50 AM, <a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
So...when all is said and done, can we in a point format (an I mean 1, 2, 3....n) format list what we need to do and get started in doing it? I will start:<br>
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<ol><li>Consolidate all the ICT /quasi-ICT associations into 1 formidable organization. In that process, define the working modalities, mandates, etc of the organization<br>
</li><li>Set timelines on when and how the above will happen</li></ol><p>The rest will follow naturally - oh....and we all promise to check our selfish peculiar habits at the door for the sake of the industry.<br>
</p><p>Edwin<br>
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<div style="width:100%; background-color:#E7E7EF"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a></div><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a><b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 3/13/13 12:32 AM
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Our Response to Systematic ICT Systems Failure at<br>
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<div style="border-left:2px solid black; padding-left:5px"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Aye..! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear Edith,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Actually, on the contrary, I was one very vocal Kenyan, about the issue last week.. You do not remember..? Maybe the gist of what I raised as a pertinent issue in my earlier email got lost
somewhere within. So again, here, my rejoinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">The IEBC ICT systems failed last week during a very crucial national process – We all agree they failed, and so spectacularly for that matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">We on the list here, were up in arms - some highlighting, criti
cizing, demanding answers, and an audit of the happenings on the ICT front of the process, and some coming to its defense<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">Were we fronting different positions, only based on how each of our candidates was performing in the tallying process, or it was to deal with an anomaly – irrespective..? Is it for the love of country, or love of self, me, us and I..?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> &nb
sp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">We loosely agreed for a post-election audit, but quickly the issue fizzled out. The main process was concluded, putting the matter to rest, so it seems. No follow-up mechanism in place etcetra. Thankfully Brian, just indicated a discussion will be held on the issue. But we may need a credible, independent body/ taskforce to deal with the issue and report back to Kenyans. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">Early this week saw the list jump to another component of this national process – The media. Again, one cannot help but see the divergent views taking a tangent t
hat’s all too familiar. Again, this will fizzle out once positions are firmly cemented in place and the whole issue will come to naught. Do we seem to have a diversionary streak in us..?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What is it that’s our main undoing..?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">We have deep seated and deep rooted issues, within us that inform the divergent views/opinions/positions we hold and a two-year old will have little difficulty seeing through the masks we put on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">We talk a lot. On the list, in our gatherings, streets, villages – everywhere. But we need to really put mechanisms in place to go beyond the ‘talk-shop’. Can we start on this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D">Let’s be unselfish and strive to consider and front country and each other – first and we will progress much, much more.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> We need to take a lead on matters ICT that affect this nation, based on principle/substance and avoid at all costs taking divergent opposing positions that best answer to the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Question, - what is in it for me/us ( read – partisan).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:1
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Edith Adera [mailto:eadera@idrc.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] Our Response to Systematic ICT Systems Failure at IEBC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">Harry,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">Not sure you were in Kenya or buried your head in the sand!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">It’s a fact that the system did not work and IEBC had to revert to the manual system as reported by the Chair of the IEBC on TV.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">We need to learn to tell the truth as a country and
confront our issues. Someone suggested on this list, can’t remember who, that as an ICT industry an audit should be carried out so we know what went wrong and learn for the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">Why do we always turn to the easy targets….tribalism, partisan interests etc when hard questions are asked?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA">Edith<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-si
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kictanet [<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Delano<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 12, 2013 3:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edith Adera<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] Our Response to Systematic ICT Systems Failure at IEBC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Aye..!<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Could someone please aver what the furor was all about on this list when systems failed at IEBC last week. I thought it was so that<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">we could address systemic issues in that part of the election process..? Please someone correct me, but I seem to be settling on<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">this conclusion that we collectively only raise hue and cry when the system(s) are perceived to be working against “us”, or not in <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">“our” interests – whichever side of divide each one of us sits. Once they serve ‘our’ interests, we quickly move on.. So where is <o:p></o:p></p><p class="M
soNormal">posterity in all this..? A pattern emerges where well calculated intellectual arguments everywhere nowadays, that thinly veil and <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">mask the real motives in us. We completely bury our heads in the ground and deny that we have deeply rooted issues that stem<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">from tribe, class etc and as a result, we are caught up in this vicious cycle that we cannot seem to free ourselves from and which <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">clouds our entire vision as a nation. Who will free us, if we do not take initiative ourselves..? How and when will we as a nation <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">confront this ‘monster’ head on, by first of all acknowledging it exists. Then moving to deal with it. Can this list be at the forefront <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">of it..?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If so, let’s start now..<o:p><!--
o:p--></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Harry<o:p></o:p></p></div> </div>
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