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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We need to be pragmatic at all levels, I agree – during elections….“tear those manifestos apart” with pragmatisms, facts and figures…..once in power hold them
to account and remove them if necessary, but we do none of that as Kenyans.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’re very self-centered and only act when it hits home hard (e.g. our families etc). We never stand up for the rights of the majority…that’s the problem. In
other countries they do….that’s an important lesson for all of us as we move into the 2<sup>nd</sup> republic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think it was in this list that Bwana Ndemo said that politicians are naturally “followers”, but in Kenya it’s the opposite! We allow them to control us rather
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> George Nyabuga [mailto:george@afrinic.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> February 13, 2013 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Edith Adera<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Without making this a two-way exchange, remember I said this was a tongue-in-cheek comment. That, however, does not negate the crux of my contribution. I would have people think critically about statecraft. Ultimately of course the people
hold the leaders to account, and can remove them from power but these mostly at election time. But in Kenya experience teaches us otherwise. Remember we celebrated the promulgation of the constitution, with chapter six dealing explicitly with leadership and
integrity. What are seeing now? If we followed that strictly, none of the candidates (bar perhaps Kiyiapi and Diba!) would have stood. What we need beyond manifestos is a serious political culture change both for the leaders and the people. I am being pragmatic.
Once these guys get to power, they realise there is little money to pay for education (and they promised free education where parents do not have to pay for anything - uniforms, books, even meals, etc.), free universal health care, defence, security, infrastructure
development, etc. So they can promise (and even publicly sign) the manifestos but unless there is a miracle (and I don't really believe in miracles!), they will not achieve much due to budgetary constraints, and emerging challenges. Just being pragmatic although
of course we need manifestos to spell out what the candidates, their political parties and, ultimately if they make it, government would do. But mostly it's easier said than do. Ask the bureaucrats and government mandarins in this list. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What would you use to hold them to account? Their empty words?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">You will be surprised to learn that the women’s movement, civil society movement and the masses brought Senegal’s current President into power amidst the greatest odds…trying
to unseat a POWERFUL incumbent that H.E. Wade was. But they did it. One of the things the movement did was to get the President to physically sign publicly a pledge (manifesto) of what he will do. To-date that’s what is used to hold him accountable and remind
him of what he promised ad signed to deliver for the people of Senegal.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Why can’t Kenyans hold their leaders to account in equal measure?....and what else would you use to do so other than what they have promised in ”indelible ink”?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We need to break away from our old mindsets.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">George
Nyabuga [mailto:george@<a href="http://afrinic.net"><span style="color:purple">afrinic.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>February 13, 2013 10:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Edith Adera<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was equally delighted to listen to the candidates. However, I should say I was disappointed more because of the quality of answers. I might have missed a bit of it as i struggled to watch it online (I eventually decided to listen instead,
thanks to live streaming by Capital!), but the guys were not articulate enough and struggled to convince me that they grasp the issues affecting Kenyans. Beyond the mere demagoguery, I did not hear concrete answers on how they would deal with education, health
and social problems. Perhaps I was expecting too much. But this was definitely a good start.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just tongue-in-cheek. Do we need manifestos when they are merely 'pieces of paper'? How do we hold the guys and the parties to account if they fail to deliver? They merely use manifestos as campaign tools, with no intention of fulfilling
whatever they have on those papers. I am being cynical because there is no way the 'bigger' boys (to use Raila's words) are going to implement policies of land (distribution), (absolutely) free education. They are merely pulling wool over our eyes and we should
be more critical of these, and perhaps use them to determine the way we vote and of course their fate. Unfortunately, many of us do not have the capacity to digest and understand the manifestos. Very unfortunate indeed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca"><span style="color:purple">eadera@idrc.ca</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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plans and their responses to questions rather than other considerations (e.g. tribal persuasions). I thought this was an interesting prompting and went out in search of the manifestos online....to my disappointment, I only found 2 manifestos...CORD and JUBILEE!!!.
None of the others exist online, unless I missed them. Are the other parties embracing the "digital world"?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">If anyone has electronic copies of the other 6 manifestos, please share on the list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Listers, What should be different in Debate No 2?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-<a href="mailto:bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke"><span style="color:purple">bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</span></a>] On Behalf Of Harry Delano<br>
Sent: February 13, 2013 9:20 AM<br>
To: Edith Adera<br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I was lurking in the shadows until I took note that the landmark debate in question has not been given 'kipao mbele' here. If I could raise 'hue and cry', that
ICT wasn't given the due mileage in that debate, then we could sensitize candidates before the next one that, this is a driver of the current and future economy. Meanwhile, just noticed all the well articulated positions had little or non to borrow from the
debate we had a while back here quizzing Dr. Ndemo as a 'future' candidate. If you ask me, the aspirants would benefit a lot from his insights that he widely shared here. Maybe at a consultancy fee..? Just me..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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