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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the media should have injected “think tanks” (research institutes) into the planning of the debate as some of these hard facts would have been incorporated
and getting experts to challenge the proposals contained in their manifestos. Ghana used this approach and the lead agency that managed the debates was the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) working in partnership with the media. We have our own think tanks…the
likes of IEA-Kenya, KIPPRA, Universities etc…institutions that have empirical evidence of what works and what doesn’t who would have added flavour to the debate while also educating Kenyans to expose what can’t work in some of the manifestos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can these considerations be given for Debate 2?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Edith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Mwangi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> February 13, 2013 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edith Adera<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In my opinion so long as parties are panel beaten affairs that are simply vehicles used to get to power then we can forget about issue based politics and any semblance of coherence of policies. As it is all the candidate parties are talking
about the same thing. Build more infrastructure, pay civil servants well, reduce waste of public resources, implement the constitution, feed everyone for free, educate everyone for free, ensure universal security/healthcare etc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So as far as policies are concerned they are all the same and the Debate was not actually a debate but a Q/A session. There were no opposing views as to the way forward. No discussion about whether raising taxes or lowering them was the
best plan for the economy post march , no discussion as to whether the 30% rule on local ownership of firms stands etc.. . Things that actually matter. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM, George Nyabuga <<a href="mailto:george@afrinic.net" target="_blank">george@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was equally delighted to listen to the candidates. However, I should say I was disappointed more because of the quality of answers. I might have missed a bit of it as i struggled to watch it online (I eventually decided to listen instead,
thanks to live streaming by Capital!), but the guys were not articulate enough and struggled to convince me that they grasp the issues affecting Kenyans. Beyond the mere demagoguery, I did not hear concrete answers on how they would deal with education, health
and social problems. Perhaps I was expecting too much. But this was definitely a good start.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just tongue-in-cheek. Do we need manifestos when they are merely 'pieces of paper'? How do we hold the guys and the parties to account if they fail to deliver? They merely use manifestos as campaign tools, with no intention of fulfilling
whatever they have on those papers. I am being cynical because there is no way the 'bigger' boys (to use Raila's words) are going to implement policies of land (distribution), (absolutely) free education. They are merely pulling wool over our eyes and we should
be more critical of these, and perhaps use them to determine the way we vote and of course their fate. Unfortunately, many of us do not have the capacity to digest and understand the manifestos. Very unfortunate indeed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca" target="_blank">eadera@idrc.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Indeed, Kudos to the media for a job well done.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I recall a tweet from Ndemo that morning suggesting that all Kenyans should read the manifestos before the debate so we judge candidates based on their concrete
plans and their responses to questions rather than other considerations (e.g. tribal persuasions). I thought this was an interesting prompting and went out in search of the manifestos online....to my disappointment, I only found 2 manifestos...CORD and JUBILEE!!!.
None of the others exist online, unless I missed them. Are the other parties embracing the "digital world"?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">If anyone has electronic copies of the other 6 manifestos, please share on the list</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Listers, What should be different in Debate No 2?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: kictanet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-" target="_blank">kictanet-</a><a href="mailto:bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</span></a>] On Behalf Of Harry
Delano<br>
Sent: February 13, 2013 9:20 AM<br>
To: Edith Adera<br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I was lurking in the shadows until I took note that the landmark debate in question has not been given 'kipao mbele' here. If I could raise 'hue and cry', that
ICT wasn't given the due mileage in that debate, then we could sensitize candidates before the next one that, this is a driver of the current and future economy. Meanwhile, just noticed all the well articulated positions had little or non to borrow from the
debate we had a while back here quizzing Dr. Ndemo as a 'future' candidate. If you ask me, the aspirants would benefit a lot from his insights that he widely shared here. Maybe at a consultancy fee..? Just me..</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>Kudos to the media for organising our first ever presidential debate.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT
enabled growth and development.<br>
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