<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Silicon Valley, the epitome of a Tech City has all the amenities of a bustling productive city - World Class Hotels, Great tech infrastructure, hospitals etc.. Does that make it a real estate (construction project)? yes of course it does in the sense that it creates the right environment for the best and the brightest to work productively and attract the most investment - both local and foreign. </div><div><br></div><div>I think the argument should be whether the country should invest so much in the Konza concept. The great economies of the world were founded and perpetuated through Big Hairy Audacious Goals (BHAGs, to quote management guru, Jim Collins) and Konza is one such BHAG. The debates surrounding this are healthy and necessary. I hope though that even the skeptics are thinking of how they can make hay around this concept. And yes, it may as well be in real estate. (Who said that listers are confined all things IT?)</div><div><br></div><div>Some of the amounts bandied around are huge and give the false impression that the Government will invest 850 billion into Konza. I stand to be corrected but this is the amount that is envisioned to be invested in total? Infrastructure, Domestic Investment, FDI etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Lets ask how we can take advantage of this great opportunity since its happening. How can we turn our young people from Night Sweeper, Gardener, Solar Panel Cleaner etc to kick ass software developers, inventors, entrepreneurs (the next Agosta Likos, Ken Njoroges, MIke Macharias, Joe Mucherus etc.)</div><div><br></div><div>Konza must not be looked at as the silver bullet that will cure all our problems but as part of a larger strategy to transform our country (and dare I say the region?). </div><div><br></div><div>Last but not least listers lets not forget the immortal words of Khalil Jibran - 'Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country'.</div><div><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phares Kariuki <<a href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 12px; ">I don't buy that argument… I'm quite sure New York is more built out than Nairobi… <div><br></div><div><a href="http://qz.com/45728/new-york-is-now-a-better-place-to-start-your-tech-company-than-san-francisco/">http://qz.com/45728/new-york-is-now-a-better-place-to-start-your-tech-company-than-san-francisco/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Nairobi doesn't qualify as a heavily built city. With roughly the same amount of acreage, New York has a population of 8M and serves a metropolis of 18M (roughly 40% of .ke's population).The problem is that we are not using land rates as the incentive they should be to encourage people to build northwards and not hoard land. If land rates were high enough, apartments blocks would hold more people, office blocks (especially) would hold more people to ease the pressure on residential land. Obviously, we would need the City Council to come in and provide necessary goods, but the systemic failure to do so (across towns in the country) is something that needs to be addressed even as we move to Konza to avoid a repeat of the same. How easy is it to do business, get permits etc. issues that need to be resolved, aside from Konza. </div><div><br></div><div>This has nothing to do with Konza per-se, just the notion that Nairobi is beyond saving. Cities last hundreds/thousands of years (Rome, London, Paris, Istanbul, Jerusalem etc). We just need to learn how to fix these problems. From my perspective this is a larger development issue. We see this all over the place when it comes to development in the country. Toss out the education system, replace it with another (instead of figuring out what's wrong with the current system and gently correcting it, to avoid systemic shocks, which tend to have more consequences than an easing of the same - simple example, 8.4.4. and the 18-22 month waiting period before you joined a university - finally resolved last year). </div></div>
<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mark Mwangi wrote:</p>
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<span><div><div><div dir="ltr">But what is this technology we speak of? Is technology only to do with coding in the vacuum of infrastructure?<div><br></div><div>Heavy infrastructure building is in my opinion the only way to ensure there is enough resources to support high technology. Building a city from the ground up will allow proper planning and sustainability if the vested interests are not allowed to hijack the entire process. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I say go ahead and if it doesn't work then so be it. Whats the alternative? Keep trying to panel beat Nairobi?<br><div><br></div></div></div><div><br><br><div>
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:38 AM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">Hi Researcher,<br><br>Tell me how do I write a string in C to add from 1 to 100 using the sheng language?<br><br>After we have convinced our youth to develop the sheng language which of the 200,000 jobs do we expect them to be hired for when Fedex, IBM, Google and Huawei setup at Konza<br>
<br><span> 1. Night s</span>weeper, <br><span> 2. G</span>ardener, <br><span> 3. S</span>olar panel cleaner<br><span> 4. D</span>atabase optimisation architect<br><br>Regards<br><br>PS. I retain my position that Konza is a construction project not a technology project as confirmed by Dr. Ndemo's statements on twitter yesterday <br>
<br><a href="https://twitter.com/bantigito" target="_blank"><strong>Bitange Ndemo</strong>
<span></span><span><s>@</s><b>bantigito</b></span>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Konza&src=hash" dir="ltr" target="_blank"><s>#</s><b>Konza</b></a>
Technology City will consist of (1 of 1): 1) Modern BPO Park 2) Science
Park 3) Convention Center. 4) Mega Mall. 5) Data Centres. <br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br></div>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/bantigito/status/293964535570776064" title="9:13 AM - 23 Jan 13" target="_blank"><span>23 Jan</span></a> </small><a href="https://twitter.com/bantigito" target="_blank">
<strong>Bitange Ndemo</strong>
<span></span><span><s>@</s><b>bantigito</b></span>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Konza&src=hash" dir="ltr" target="_blank"><s>#</s><b>Konza</b></a> Technology City will consist of (2 of 1): 1) World-class Hotels 2) Local and International Schools 3) World Class Hospitals. <br>
</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br></div><a href="https://twitter.com/bantigito" target="_blank"><strong>Bitange Ndemo</strong>
<span></span><span><s>@</s><b>bantigito</b></span>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Konza&src=hash" dir="ltr" target="_blank"><s>#</s><b>Konza</b></a>
Technology City will consist of (3 of 1) :1) Championship Golf Course,
2) Financial District, 3) High Speed Mass Transport System. <br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><a href="https://twitter.com/bantigito" target="_blank"><strong>Bitange Ndemo</strong>
<span></span><span><s>@</s><b>bantigito</b></span>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Konza&src=hash" dir="ltr" target="_blank"><s>#</s><b>Konza</b></a>
Technology City will consist of (4 of 1): 1) Residential Housing, 2)
Superior Modern Integrated Infrastructure, among other features.
</div><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" value="+254722511225" target="_blank">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" value="+254202010696" target="_blank">+254202010696</a><br>
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"><div> <hr size="1">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> ICT Researcher <<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>><br> </div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 24 January 2013, 8:04<div><div><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING
CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS<br> </div></div></font> </div><div><div> <br><div><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">btw, vuta aerial... saka "<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">chwani" hapa: <a href="http://www.sheng.co.ke" target="_blank">www.sheng.co.ke</a>, pamoja! </span><br>
<div><br></div> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> ICT Researcher <<a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:46 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS<br> </font> </div>
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<div><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Rather than remaining adamantly fixed on a now realistically bygone era of afresh reconstruction of entirely new, singly-owned, ICT empires - from ground-up, perhaps the said NTHs should consider newer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopetition" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopetition</a> business models approach to growing their tech biasharas at Konza. How many of the multinationals currently interested in setting shop at Konza do *everything* inhouse? Unfortunately, adopting "rebel" NTH tag does not make global realities go away.<br>
<br>my chwani ;-) </span><br><br><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ict.researcher@yahoo.com</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:42 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS<br> </font> </div>
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<div>
@ Liko,<br>
<br>
As VP put it rightly at the launch...we need more "crazy" Dr Ndemos to make things happen...therefore, as a Nairobi Tech Hustler, I shall take me to Konza and Hustle there 'till I make it...this is a good project and we should be proud that it is now on course...of course criticism is healthy and must be tolerated in a democracy - and I am sure the many critics within and without this forum did +vely influence the approach of this project over the years<br>
<br>
Therefore, Kudos to Dr. Ndemo and your team for a job well done thus far<br>
<br>
Edwin<br>
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<div style="width:100%;background-color:#e7e7ef"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a></div><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a><b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 1/23/13 10:30 AM
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<div style="border-left:2px solid black;padding-left:5px"> <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">@Liko,<br>
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You/Pesapal is a big player...and you should be there hustling with the big boys at Konza Technopolis. Dream big, and you will be surprised how soon your dreams come true.<br>
<br>
For me, Konza is an example of what we as a country are capable of. A break from the past, where we compared ourselves to our neighbours (e.g Somalia with apologies) and a leap into comparing ourselves with where we belong (read Malaysia, Singapore et. al.)<br>
<br>
Lets aim for the Sun, because the worst that can happen is that we land on the moon. Rather than aim for the main, and by 2030, we shall still be here on earth :-)<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
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</span></div><div><br>
</div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Agosta Liko <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:36 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Mr Nduati<br>
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Raising concerns and shaping decisions does not make one a doubting Thomas<br>
<br>
</div>but the, this thing is for HP, Oracle, Microsoft ... not Nairobi Hustle Tech<br>
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</div>Thanks<br>
<div><div><br>
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</div></div></div><div><br>
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<div>On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM, charles nduati <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Hi Daktari Ndemo and Your team,</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent"><span><br>
</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent"> <span>Congratulations on the ground breaking ceremony tomorrow. I wonder where the doubting Thomases are. Have a great day and let us know where the party will be thereafter</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent"> <span><br>
</span></div><div><span>Kudos all</span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent"> <span><br>
</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent"><span>Charles Nduati</span></div><div> </div> <div><br>
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