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Obam<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks Obam and welcome to the list. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div>A few quick points:</div><div><br></div><div>1. I do not remember stakeholders agreeing that Kenya was going to support the AfCP during the meeting that took place on November 13th at Laico. And if that was the agreement, then what was the use of having the stakeholders consultation? </div><div><br></div><div>2. Could we have a clarity on stakeholder participation in relation to development of national positions?</div><div><br></div><div>3. Does it mean then that no position has changed and that Kenya is still going with the AfCP as was shared before the stakeholder meeting?</div><div><br></div><div>4. And yes there is inclusion in the Kenya Delegation though people have to source for their own funding. However, there is no clarity on their engagement. </div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards</div><div>Grace</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 07:02:26 -0800<br>From: daniel_obam@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] CAUTION ON HARDLINE POSITIONS<br>CC: Kandie@cck.go.ke; CPA@cck.go.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Ndaro,</span></div><div><span>This is my first ever contribution on KICTANET since it started about 7 years ago.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I wish to quote for you the final paragraph of the article by the Economist "Governments squabble over new rules for the internet" (<a href="http://www.economist.com/news/21567340-governments-squabble-over-new-rules-internet%29" target="_blank">http://www.economist.com/news/21567340-governments-squabble-over-new-rules-internet) </a> which was also posted earlier on the list:</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>"<em>Fears of an anti-Western putsch in Dubai, handing control of the internet to authoritarian governments, are overblown. Though in theory the ITU works by majority vote, in practice agreements are almost always reached by consensus.
Moreover, the ITU has no power to foist rules on governments that refuse to bargain. A bigger danger is therefore deadlock. That might encourage a large pack of nations to set up their own internet regime, making communication with the rest of the world more costly and more complicated</em>".</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Perhaps all along it has never really been about national (and public) interest, security and ideals. Maybe it is all about commerce. </span><span>So as a country THE choice is really ours.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>NB: Our official position as indicated before, during and after the stakeholder meeting is support of the African Common Proposals(AFCPs) with the output of the stakeholder meeting assisting us in negotiating our final position during the conference. And I believe all those who spoke during the stakeholders meeting have been included in
the Kenyan Government official delegation to WCIT and I believe some are already in Dubai right now.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Just thought I remind ourselves on what we discussed and agreed during the stakeholders meeting at the LAICO Hotel some 3 weeks back.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Kind regards</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div>Daniel Obam </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="padding:0px;height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px" class="hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Matano Ndaro <mtnndaro@yahoo.co.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> daniel_obam@yahoo.com <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> "Kandie, K Juma" <Kandie@cck.go.ke>; Consumer and Public Affairs
<CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 1, 2012 3:36 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] CAUTION ON HARDLINE POSITIONS<br> </font></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <br><div id="ecxyiv390589776"><div><div><div>Dear All,</div><div><br></div><div>The WTSA, which sets the work program for the Telecommunication Standardization Sector (ITU-T) ended on 29th November, paving way for the WCIT. The Plenipotentiary Conference 2010 instructed the ITU Secretary General to organize the conference, to capture the tremendous changes and transformation that have taken place in the ICT sector. The last conference was held in Melbourne, Australia, in
1988.</div><div><br></div><div>Consequently, the ITU Council set up a working group to spearhead the process. The ITU-T Director has been the one organizing the process since the bulk of the substantive issues of the conference are related to standardization. Certainly, the outcome of the conference will be a product of a negotiated settlement, based on a lot of give and take. The most controversial subjects revolve around the role of governments in the purview of the Internet. Transparency, security,international accounting and settlement, fair compensation, spam, numbering and freedom, among others, are some of the topics that will come under intense global scrutiny in the next two weeks.</div><div><br></div><div>One school of thought advocates for the Internet to continue evolving on what is perceived to be an open, multi -stakeholder environment, while the other strongly feels that governments must have a role in the setting of rules governing the
management of the resources that facilitate the evolution of the Internet, while allowing commercial entities, the freedom to freely negotiate. Network operators, buoyed by a number of national governments, are pushing for the recognition of not only the role they play in facilitating the delivery of content, but also for "fair" compensation for the use of their infrastructure in order to sustainably continue investing in the requisite facilities on which the net and its related services ride. Subjects such as fraud and internet security, which have become more and more complex will also be haggled upon vigorously. Content developers, advertisers, network operators, civili society, national governments, content sellers, bloggers, etc are pushing positions motivated by diverse persuasions.</div><div><br></div><div>At the heart of the various divergent positions being put forward are deep-seated national, regional, and private strategic and economic
interests. While some countries are clear on what they want, some may not be fully aware of the long-term consequences of the positions they may wish to take. Intense lobbying, innuendo, back-stabbing, misrepresentation, and pre-negotiations have been going on. Nevertheless, after the intense debates, the final product of WCIT will be a balance between and among the various positions.</div><div><br></div><div>The ITU has come under intense pressure over the last few months and has been accused of habouring intentions of venturing into a domain it has no competence in and has been asked to focus on the arena of telecommunications. In its defence, the Union has insisted that, as a Member State based UN agency, it can only pursue an agenda put forward by its stakeholders and that it has no agenda of its own. The jury is still out but the truth will emerge once the veil is removed.</div><div><br></div><div>The above notwithstanding, it's extremely important
that we come to the conference with more than one strategies with the willingness for give and take, as long as we stay within the reasonable confines of our national interests. Countries are looking at the bigger longer-term picture based on regional and global interests. Countries pushing the freedom card must be aware that while the ethos of freedom are sacrosanct, there is no national edict that commands extra-territorial application and that a reasonable balance will have to be struck between and among many delicate interests. I can bet that even those countries that hold strong divergent positions have been engaging in prior negotiations to facilitate the spirit of consensus and compromise. It is within the foregoing context that we have to view the AfCPs; they constitute a position meant to facilitate positive engagement and compromise, bearing in mind the reality that no single position will, and can dictate the outcomes of the conference. These
are negotiations folks, not a war of bravado and brinksmanship; it's not a contest between progress and anarchy. Remember, it has taken twenty four years to agree on a negotiation platform. Certainly, there has been winners and losers over this long period, and hence the need for a conference to streamline the operational and regulatory framework. There might be minimum changes, extensive changes, moderate changes or no change at all, respectively.</div><div><br></div><div>We must defend our national position, whatever it might be, with facts, conviction and clarity, while respecting the right of others to hold different positions. The focus, folks, must be the bigger </div><div>picture, informed by our carefully evaluated interests and the need to build beneficial alliances to the nation state. I repeat, nations have no friends, nations have interests.</div><div><br></div><div>Bon voyage to those traveling to Dubai and Best
Regards.</div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPad<div><br></div></div><div><br>On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" rel="nofollow">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote><div><div>McTim</div><div><br></div><div>Several stakeholders made submissions to CCK on the AfCPs where we expressed strong reservations to CCKs support of the AfCPs. Our submissions were taken into consideration in the final report on the stakeholders meeting held n the 13th of November.</div><div><br></div><div>There will be a briefing on this on the eve of WCIT Dubai so I do hope this will be shared online.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Principal | Telemedia
Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><span class="ecxyiv390589776Apple-style-span">+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:42 PM, McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><span>Hi all,</span><br><span></span><br><span>WCIT is just a few days away. Is Kenya still supporting the AfCPs, or</span><br><span>the latest media reports :</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.biztechafrica.com/article/kenya-oppose-review-internet-rules/4822/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.biztechafrica.com/article/kenya-oppose-review-internet-rules/4822/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>--
</span><br><span>Cheers,</span><br><span></span><br><span>McTim</span><br><span>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A</span><br><span>route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Wambua, Christopher <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke" rel="nofollow">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote><span>Listers,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>I am pleased to inform you that we have uploaded the African Common</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Proposals (AfCPs) agreed upon in Ghana onto the CCK website. The AfCPs</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>are available
at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/current_consultations/African_C" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/current_consultations/African_C</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>ommon_Proposals_the_ITRs_Rev.pdf</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>As already communicated by my colleagues, CCK shall host a stakeholders</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>meeting on 13th November 2012 to share the proposals or Kenya's position</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>on ITRs and collect comments/input on the same from the industry and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>other interested parties.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>The venue of the
stakeholders meeting shall be communicated in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>course of the week. We look forward to receiving substantive comments</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>on the ITRs ahead of the stakeholders meeting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Best regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Christopher Wambua</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Manager/Communications</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Consumer and Public Affairs Division</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Communications Commission of Kenya</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>KENYA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>From: kictanet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>[<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Behalf Of <a href="mailto:alice@apc.org" rel="nofollow">alice@apc.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:40 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>To: Wambua, Christopher</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who controls the internet?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Dear all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>I agree with Omo. Is it possible to provide/discuss substantive comments</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>to the current proposals for revisions of ITRs to assist the CCK</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>finalize</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>on developing a national position.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>However, I can also understand why some stakeholder are not able to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>contribute. It
would have been good, in retrospect to have organized a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>session to dymystify the ITRs and the discuss the merits/demerits of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>current proposals.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Apologies for adding to the noise rather than contributing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>substantively.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>best</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Alice</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Thanks Nd
Kivuva. Somehow, I didn't receive Nd Ali's response to mine</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>which you seem to have responded to and for which I thank you.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>CCK had posted the AfCPs inviting views in order to prepare for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>Ghana</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>meeting and also the meeting in Dubai. We indicated that we subscribed</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>the same, having contributed to their development. There was also a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>request that we study Proposals from other Regions. Further, there was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>promise then, and still is, that CCK would convene a meeting of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Stakeholders before the meeting in Dubai. Giving or taking credit for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>pushing Government on its views on ITRs is inappropriate when the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>initiative was itself from Government/CCK.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>To date, much of what I hear is not on
substantive input, either on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>AfCPs or Proposals from other Regions, but clamour for a Stakeholders'</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>meeting or posting such as "thanks for a promise of a breakfast</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>meeting"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>or 'pushing Gov't on its views'! We are a growing to be a society more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>comfortable attending workshops/breakfast meetings rather than the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>actual</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>'on the table work.' Let me
reiterate that the rubber will meet the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>road,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>not in the fact that CCK has organised a Stake holder's workshop, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>in a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>delegation that has prepared its docs, read the meeting docs/docs from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>other Regions and prepared to present reasoned arguments.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Even as we hail the promise of a breakfast meeting or giving credit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>pushing Gov't, please let us read the postings and offer substantive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>comments. It would help if the local Secretariat can prepare</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>documentation</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>for the workshop/breakfast meeting based on views presented apriori.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>As</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>mentioned earlier, the official report of Ghana is out and should be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>posted either today or tomorrow.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Kind rgds.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>OMO, John,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Commission Secretary,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Communications Commission of Kenya,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Tel: +254 20 4242285/6 Cell: +254722523348</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>bear" -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Martin Luther King Jr.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>From: kictanet on behalf of Kivuva</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Sent: Sun 11/4/2012 18:42</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>To: Omo, John</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who controls the internet?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Thank you Ali for pushing for a government position on ITRs. When</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>there is silence it means that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>1. The government is playing their position like a secret card
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>should not be shown in public.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>2. We don't have a position.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>3. We don't understand what is being discussed.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Thanks Dr. Ndemo for the hint of a breakfast meeting to clear the air.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>On 04/11/2012, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" rel="nofollow">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Ndugu Omo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Thanks for your note. I had actually refrained from posting any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>comments</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>because of the Ghana meeting. In retrospect may be I should have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>irrespective of the Ghana meeting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>I must say that this kind of discourse is definitely helpful and goes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>long</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>way in calming the waters.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>I look forward to the stakeholders meeting in the 13th Nov.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Principal | Telemedia
Africa Ltd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>+254 773/713 601113</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:06 AM, "Omo, John" <<a href="mailto:Omo@cck.go.ke" rel="nofollow">Omo@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Noted and thanks Nd Ali.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>We had posted a draft of the African Common Proposals (AfCPs)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>amending</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>ITRs. The AfCPs were the culmination of two preparatory meetings by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Stakeholders held in Cairo and Durban. Our request was that Kenyan</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Stakeholders study and forward comments on the same to assist in our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>preparations for the preparatory meeting held in Ghana and also
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Kenyan Stakeholders meeting before the Dubai meeting. I remember</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>getting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>indications that you'd study the same and revert with your comments.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>We</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>are still
waiting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The way this works is this: in order to have better use of time at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Conferences, stakeholders are encouraged develop proposals common to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>regions. Of course Member States, being sovereign, can submit their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>individual proposals separate from and even in opposition to their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Regions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>(See a number of US proposals or common to both the US and Canada,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>are different from those
of CITEL to which both countries are a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>member).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>But it is better that views that are similar to a region or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>inter-region/s are submitted and discussed as common proposals. That</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>hastens consensus building and saves on time at the Conference.
We</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>had</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>indicated that our views as a country was pretty much a long the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>proposed</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>AfCPs to which we have contributed.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The official outcome of the Ghana meeting is now out and has some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>improvements to the Durban draft. We are uploading the same early</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>week, again with a request to Stakeholders submit substantive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>comments</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>that would aid in either endorsing/not endorsing the same.
The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>proposals</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>will still be debated strenuously at the Conference which will take</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>decisions largely by way of consensus. Please, please let us study</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>draft proposals including those from other Regions - that is
where</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>rubber will meet the road in Dubai. Tentatively, we plan to have a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>local</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>stakeholders meeting on the 13th Nov.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>With kind rgds.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>OMO, John</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Commission Secretary</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Communications Commission of Kenya</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Tel: +254 20 4242285/6</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Cell: +254722523348</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span> "I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>bear" -</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Martin
Luther King Jr.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>From: kictanet on behalf of Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Sent: Sat 11/3/2012 09:17</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>To: Omo, John</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who controls the internet?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Chip</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Thanks for the clarifications and
updates.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Listers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>I hate to bring this issue up again but should the utter and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>complete</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>silence from the CCK on our country position raise red flags?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Bwana DG Wangusi with all due respect to your good offices can we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>some sort of statement on this issue? I believe it is critically</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>important</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>that we do know and I honestly believe that whatever that position</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>(whether it emanates from the IGF deliberations or not) it should</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>now</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>made public. We are less than two
months away from WCIT Dubai.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>CEO | 3mice interactive media
Ltd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>+254 773/713 601113</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Sent from my
iPad</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:07 AM, "Chip Sharp (chsharp)"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span><<a href="mailto:chsharp@cisco.com" rel="nofollow">chsharp@cisco.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>I'm sorry I'm late to this conversation, but I wanted to point out</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>few</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span> The only proposals for revision of the ITRs that will be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>considered</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>the WCIT are from Member States or Regional groups (e.g., ATU,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>CEPT).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>This means there are no ITU proposals to the WCIT. So where the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>article</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>says "ITU proposal" it should say "country or regional proposal".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>It also means there is no ETNO proposal to the WCIT. The text ETNO</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>proposed must be submitted by a country or region or it won't be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>considered.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The proposals that have been made public are not officially to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>considered at WCIT. The countries or regions must submit their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>proposals</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>(again) directly to the WCIT. These country proposals to the WCIT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>can</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>different from what has been made public. After reviewing
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>current</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>submissions to WCIT I can say that some are different from what the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>same</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>country or region proposed in the public document. A few of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>differences are important. So ITU would need to make TD-1 and its</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>revisions public to keep people informed as to the actual proposals</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>WCIT.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>ATU proposals are not yet available on the ITU website.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Chip</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>**Disclaimer: these are my
opinions and not those of Cisco or the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>US</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>del.***</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:49 AM, "George Nyabuga" <<a href="mailto:george@afrinic.net" rel="nofollow">george@afrinic.net</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>An interesting article in The Guardian, quoting, among others, our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>own</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Alice Munyua. But what the listers make of it?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>See article at:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>twt_gu</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>George</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Dr George Nyabuga</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Tel:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>+230 403 51 00</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>58</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:george@afrinic.net" rel="nofollow">george@afrinic.net</a> - <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>----------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Join us at AFRINIC-17 for our Public Policy Meeting in Khartoum,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Sudan,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>on 24 - 29 November 2012</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>----------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chsharp%40cisco.co" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chsharp%40cisco.co</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>m</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>platform</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT
policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>behaviors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>respect</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein</a>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The
Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>platform</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>behaviors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>respect</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>______________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Mwendwa
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knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>platform</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>ICT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span>do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wambua%40cck.go.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wambua%40cck.go.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>development.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>online that you follow in real
life: respect people's times and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dogwallah%40gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dogwallah%40gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share
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