<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hey Listers,</div><div><br></div><div>Simple Maths at Sh. 8.8m seems to be high per location considering most of the areas will have the infrastructure ie the fibre in place etc. I am sure they are not planning lay more fibre, the could piggy back on the existing infrastructure it seems to be very expensive for what it is, if anybody has some statistics from other cities where this has been deployed like Dubai or Singapore, this could shed some light.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br>Baiju Shah<div>Tele2media Ltd</div><div>Telemedia Africa Ltd</div><div>Tel. +254701691570</div><div>email: <a href="mailto:baiju@tele2media.com">baiju@tele2media.com</a></div></div><div><br>On 29 Nov 2012, at 11:27, John Ochoti <<a href="mailto:jonsom.o@gmail.com">jonsom.o@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><div>@Omtatah,<br><br>You do not have all the facts right. An Integrated Urban Surveillance System (IUSS) is not a simple cctv system that involves installation of cameras. It involves a state-of-the-art command/control center equipped with high end servers and other control equipment. The system includes a redundant command center having an exact setup as the main center. There is also a fiber network to be set up. The cameras are superior with in-built features like video analytics. There is storage. One year maintenance contract...<br>
<br>The backbone of the system is an Intelligent Video Management System with attendant licences in-as-much-as it is based on open architecture.<br><br>The budget is around KES 450 Million for all the above aspects including multiple cameras at the 51 locations. The KES 8 B is for future expansion to more locations within Nairobi and other cities.<br>
<br>I am sure if you value the security of city residents and loss of billions annually due to poor traffic management you should be happy the government is doing something about it. This does not -- of course -- negate the need for accountability on the use of public funds.<br>
<br>John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Listers sorry for cross posting: </div><div><br></div>Dear Omtata, Ill begin with a statement I read somewhere: <div>
"An elephant is a rat built to government specifications". </div><div><br></div><div>That Said & Done, the person answerable to us on this matter must, and has to be the PS , Daktari Ndemo. The assumption has to be that Due diligence was followed (or should have been followed) and procurement of these gadgets involved the necessary ministries for technology oversight. That said, I doubt that the procured equipment was of the order that you find on Kimathi street or other local suppliers. As interested parties in the security of the nation, I would assume that only military grade equipment would do, where various organs, NSIS, KDOD & other uniforms would put in requirements for this that would then be added up to determine the scope. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Considering our military is a highly secretive one, and that procurements come to be heard of years later, and factoring in the fact that while latest trends show that our learnings have been to the east when procuring hardware, we still maintain a "joined in the hip" relationship with some western leaning nations such as Israel. It would therefore not be inimaginable that some obscure "additions" might have been added onto the mix to do more specific tasks than just "seeing". In which case then securing these 51 installations, getting the relevant persons trained to the right skill set and running interferance would easily hit that mark. </div>
<div><br></div><div>but who knows, maybe we have an unmanned predator hovering over the city doing all this. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omtatah@yahoo.com" target="_blank">omtatah@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><div style="font-family:garamond,'new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span><span>Is there anybody familiar with this issue of </span></span><span>CCTV cameras within cities? It is reported the we will be</span> spending Kshs 8.5 billion on CCTV cameras within Nairobi, in just 51 locations!?... One expert told me this:</span></span></div>
<div style="font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">"One high tech camera
costs about kshs. 60,000. If you multiply this with 51, you get kshs. 3.06m. Assuming each will be controlled by a Mac computer, kshs.250k by 51 you get kshs.12.7m. If you add even 100m for installation and other expenses. There is no way it could amount to kshs.8.5 billion!!!"</span><br>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;line-height:17px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif">O</font></span><font>n the procurement of public goods and services, the Constitution declares i</font></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">n Article </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px;background-color:transparent"><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif">227(1) that</font></span><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;line-height:17px"><font>:</font></span><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:17px"><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"> "When a State organ or any other public entity contracts for goods or</font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent"><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:17px">services, it shall do so in accordance with a system that is fair, </span></font><span style="line-height:17px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent">equitable, transparent, competitive and cost-effective."</span></div>
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