<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Chip</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the clarifications and updates. </div><div><br></div><div>Listers</div><div><br></div><div>I hate to bring this issue up again but should the utter and complete silence from the CCK on our country position raise red flags? </div><div><br></div><div>Bwana DG Wangusi with all due respect to your good offices can we have some sort of statement on this issue? I believe it is critically important that we do know and I honestly believe that whatever that position is (whether it emanates from the IGF deliberations or not) it should now be made public. We are less than two months away from WCIT Dubai. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards <br><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:07 AM, "Chip Sharp (chsharp)" <<a href="mailto:chsharp@cisco.com">chsharp@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>I'm sorry I'm late to this conversation, but I wanted to point out a few things.</div>
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<div> The only proposals for revision of the ITRs that will be considered at the WCIT are from Member States or Regional groups (e.g., ATU, CEPT).</div>
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<div>This means there are no ITU proposals to the WCIT. So where the article says "ITU proposal" it should say "country or regional proposal".</div>
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<div>The proposals that have been made public are not officially to be considered at WCIT. The countries or regions must submit their proposals (again) directly to the WCIT. These country proposals to the WCIT can be different from what has been made public.
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the public document. A few of the differences are important. So ITU would need to make TD-1 and its revisions public to keep people informed as to the actual proposals into WCIT.</span></div>
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:49 AM, "George Nyabuga" <<a href="mailto:george@afrinic.net">george@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>An interesting article in The Guardian, quoting, among others, our own Alice Munyua. But what the listers make of it?
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<div>See article at: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=twt_gu">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=twt_gu</a></div>
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