<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br> Telkom Kenya (Orange - French<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Safaricom (Vodafon - British</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Airtel- Indian</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">How exactly will these horses represent our interests?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px;
font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 18 October 2012, 21:27<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Who controls the internet?<br> </font> </div> <br>Interesting debate.<br>Anybody claiming we don't have a horse at WCIT is undermining us. We<br>actually have thoroughbred horses in the race. Telkom Kenya (Orange +<br>GoK), Safaricom (Vodafon + GoK), and Airtel are thoroughbreds with<br>influence all over Europe, Africa, and Asia. There are other players<br>too, satellite operators, and other telecommunication companies, The<br>public is also represented through civil societies that will advocate<br>for rights of end users. With all this, I think as Ali is insisting,<br>we should have a position on ITRs.<br><br>Regards<br><br>On 18/10/2012, McTim <<a ymailto="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com"
href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Ali Hussein <<a ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>> McTim<br>>><br>>> That Nakumatt analogy may not necessarily help the case of content owners<br>>> because Nakumatt and most big ticket supermarkets do in fact get 'paid'<br>>> for stocking goods through various ways<br>><br>> It may not be the best analogy, true, but I think it made the<br>> point....perhaps a better one would be that Nakumatt would ask<br>> manufacturers to pay per gram of what is stocked, just as content<br>> providers would be asked to pay per bit.<br>><br>> "Cushy" doesn't begin to describe it!<br>><br>> --<br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> McTim<br>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>> route indicates
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