Hello Listers,<div><br></div><div>Impersonation is illegal online and offline and I believe the law applies both ways. I think the same for Hate speech. Just because it is written on Facebook does not mean it is not inciting or malicious. </div>
<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>Grace and all</div><div><br></div><div>The issue of impersonation is one area that I think is clear on the responsibility of intermediaries. Once an intermediary is alerted and has proof of impersonation then remedial measures should be taken immediately. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The question that should be asked is:- is it wrong in the eyes of the law? If its an offense to impersonate someone offline why do we think its kosher to do so online? Lets not blur the issues by thinking that the fact that the Internet provides a useful tool for anonymity means that we should use it to impersonate others (usually with malicious intent).</div>
<div><br></div><div>My thoughts.</div><div class="im"><div><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><span>+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>
On Oct 18, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">Good morning Listers</span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white">
<font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">Yesterday we had a stimulating debate on prosecuting hate speech online. Ali Hussein pointed out that what is wrong offline is also wrong online and gave the example of impersonation.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white">
<font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">Today, we want to focus our attention on online imposters.</span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br>
</span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">We have had
cases of imposters creating facebook and twitter accounts of known
personalities for example of the former government spokesperson Alfred Mutua,
Comedian Churchill aka Mwalimu King’gang’ and several politicians. The police
have also been impersonated on twitter. </span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><font><br></font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white">
<font>In such a case, where
is the place of ethics and personal values especially when impersonating other
people online? Is there a provision of personal values in our constitution or
in any or our legislation that can provide guidance on how to handle online imposters? How should such matters be dealt with?</font><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2a2a2a"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#2a2a2a"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><br></div>Lets hear it from you. This is the second last day to contribute as we will be winding up this debate tomorrow.<div><br></div><div>Have a wonderful day.</div><div>Rgds</div><div>Grace<br><div><div></div><hr>
From: <a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a><br>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:38:00 +0300<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Prosecution of online hate speech<br>CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div>Alex and all</div><div><br></div><div>I always find that the simple rules of every day life if also followed on the Internet invariably works albeit with tweaks here and there. What is wrong offline is also wrong online. Impersonation whether off or online is still wrong. The principles of privacy and freedom of expression cuts both ways. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I think sometimes we make it too complicated by thinking that the Internet is a unique place where people can get away with things that they probably wouldn't in the 'real' world. Once we accept that the Internet is just another medium which accelerates interaction and blurs community boundaries and accept that the basic tenets of good and bad still remain the same despite the hyper-connectivity enablement we will be the better for it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards </div><div><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd</div>
</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><span>+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Oct 17, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<span style="font-size:10pt">tions.</span></div></div></div> </div>
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