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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
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mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">Thanks Kivuva, Barrack, Alex, Gideon and Ali for such a vibrant debate on this topic.
Please feel free to still debate if you have more concerns. And other Listers are encouraged to contribute.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
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mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">Points gleaned from the debate:</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
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mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">Kivuva suggests that there is need to safeguard personal freedom and space even as the
safety of the nation is important.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="color: rgb(42, 42, 42); font-family: Cambria, serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 12.75pt; ">Barrack </span><span style="line-height: 12.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(42, 42, 42); ">notes that leadership and freedom come with responsibility</span><span style="line-height: 12.75pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; ">! Further, he recommends</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; ">that the Police Inspector General (not in office yet) collaborates with
stakeholders to ensure cyber security of the citizenry is guaranteed whilst
respecting </span><span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 12.75pt; ">privacy, </span><span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 12.75pt; ">and for CCK to conduct a survey on issue of surveillance.</span></p>
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color:#2A2A2A">Gideon supports the development of the means to curtail any irresponsibility online at an early stage.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2A2A2A">Alex raises the costs monitoring of hate speech would impose on cybercafés, </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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color:#2A2A2A">which would then be transferred to the consumers. This would be a barrier to access and cybercafés </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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color:#2A2A2A">would be forced to either increasetheir prices, or simply stop operating because of the costs. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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color:#2A2A2A">Important to note is that crime and hate speech are a big problem, that cannot be solved without
a vast array of negative consequences by requiring intermediaries to act as policeman.</span></p>
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mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">The idea of having online community policing was expressed. However an online
community comprises a community of multiple and overlapping communities. These
communities are a lot less tight knit and it is hard to identify whether one is a member </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
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mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">of a community or not. Given the multiple layers of anonymity inherent
on the internet afforded to all: offenders, infringers, policers and vigilantes
any attempt at community policing online is fraught with many problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 12.75pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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color:#2A2A2A">Ali noted that the principles of privacy and freedom of
expression cuts both ways, and cautioned that t</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; ">he Internet is not a unique place where
people can get away with things that they probably wouldn't in the 'real'
world.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria, serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#2A2A2A">Barrack, unfortunately the
CJ is not on the list but we would welcome him here.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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