GG,<br><br>Intermediaries are liable to a certain extent, when a computer broadcasts spam, its IP address is blacklisted and users might not be able to use it to send mail until corrective measures are taken. I beleive this is meant to ensure that the Intermediary is responsible for the content emanating from the network? if this is the case, why shouldn't the government which has a responsibility over the safety and security of every citizen not take the intermediary to court to produce the the real culprit? Imagine what would have happened in the the recent case when a child was kidnapped from a City Church if the Intermediary had not been of assistance to the state agencies, now that the populace understands the value of the Internet we should start educating them about their rights responsibility on the net same case applies to the Intermediaries, if this issues are not enshrined in the law it will be total chaos (looking at it from a government perspective)<br>
<br>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:58 AM, John Kariuki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Grace,Listers,</span></div>
<div><span>Section 29 of KICA was first introduced in Kenya law in 1998 at the infancy of the Internet in Kenya and was based mainly on experience of Facsimile.It was, in my view, at that time not intended for intermediaries.</span></div>
<div><span>However,if today a smart lawyer can adduce pursuasive evidence in court that indeed the intermediary was actually the 'sender' not mere 'carrier', I see no reason why he may not secure a conviction based on KICA section 29. </span></div>
<div><span></span> </div><div><span>John Kariuki.</span></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <div style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);min-height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px" readonly></div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 1:02<div class="im"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] Hate text messages/KICA Section 29<br> </div></font> </div>
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<div><span style="line-height:12.75pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond">Good morning Listers</span></div><div><span style="line-height:12.75pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:12.75pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond">I would like to thank Jane, Barrack and Topista for views expressed on yesterday's topic <i>Shooting the messenger.</i></span></div>
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<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span><font face="Garamond" size="3"> </font></span></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><span>They did express the need to place some </span>level of responsibility on both the source of the content and the host platform. Further they underscored the need to have a good information system that operates
under a sound policy framework if it is to be useful to society. </font></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"> </font></div>
<div style="background:white;margin-left:0.5in;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><span style="line-height:115%">Today we look at </span><span style="line-height:115%">Section 29 of the KICA (improper use of system) </span><span style="line-height:115%"><a href="http://www.cck.go.ke/regulations/downloads/KenyaInformation-Communications-Act-Final.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cck.go.ke/regulations/downloads/KenyaInformation-Communications-Act-Final.pdf</a></span><span style="line-height:115%"> that is increasingly being used as a basis
for criminal charges for users of technology based platforms. See example: </span></font><a style="line-height:17px;font-family:Garamond;font-size:medium" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q7VmsYNsqE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q7VmsYNsqE</a></div>
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</font><div style="background:white;text-indent:0.5in;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="line-height:115%"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><br></font></span></b></div><div style="background:white;text-indent:0.5in;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span style="line-height:115%"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><br></font></span></b></div><div style="background:white;text-indent:0.5in;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><b><span style="line-height:115%">29. A person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system— </span></b><span style="line-height:115%"></span></font></div>
<div style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><b>(a) sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an
indecent, obscene or menacing character; or </b></font></div>
<div style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><b>(b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing
annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person </b></font></div>
<div style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><b><br></b></font></div><div style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><b>commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not
exceeding fifty thousand shillings, or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
three months, or to both.</b><span style="padding:0in;border:1pt windowtext"> </span></font></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"> </font></div>
<div style="background:white;margin:0in 0in 5pt 0.25in;line-height:12.75pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3">Could misuse of an information system also be used to charge
intermediaries? Would this call for the training of the Kenya Police, DPP and
Judiciary so that they understand the issues as they litigate and make rulings?
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<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"> </font></div><div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3">Listers, lets hear your views. Further, please feel free to go back to yesterday's thread on shooting the messenger if you would like to contribute. </font></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><br></font></div><div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3">Have a wonderful day</font></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3"><br></font></div><div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3">Rgds</font></div>
<div style="background:white;line-height:12.75pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Garamond" size="3">GG</font></div></div> </div></div>
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