<font face="georgia,serif">Brandie<br><br>I believe there is movement towards legislating the issues you have raised. However, we ought to be careful how we move forward on this so that we don't risk a 'heavy foot' in an area where there is a lot of innovation going on right now. Its a delicate balance to protect free speech, the right of platforms to conduct business without the risk of litigation and the right of individuals and organisations to seek recourse in case of being maligned and falsely accused online.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Grace Githaiga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Brandie<div><br></div><div>On your second issue, yes it is happening. The meeting that took place last week was to disseminate the findings of the study on the topic. The main telcos were present and did express their sentiments on the matter. The Industry regulator was also present as well as the government represent by the PS Ministry of Info.�</div>
<div><br></div><div>We will share the final study once it is finalized and you will probably get more information.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I know Listers will respond to you on the questions you have raised.�</div>
<div>Rgds</div><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">GG<br></font></span><div class="hm HOEnZb"><br></div><div><div class="hm HOEnZb"><div></div><hr>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:07:18 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Shooting the messenger?<br>
From: <a href="mailto:blm5350@psu.edu" target="_blank">blm5350@psu.edu</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></div>
<div><div class="h5"><br><br>Good evening Listers:<div>� �I would like to pose two questions to the group. I was recently in Kenya and had the opportunity to interview many of you on the issue of intermediary liability in regard to the use of ICT platforms to promote social unrest and whether ISPs and telcos could shutdown ICT platforms. Thank you, again, to all of those with whom I spoke. I have learned a great deal from all of you.</div>
<div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Do you believe there will be any policies drafted to structure what ISPs and Telcos should do if their platforms are used for dissent that could promote violence?�</b></div><div><br></div><div>
I believe this issue was discussed by Victor Kapiyo at the July EAIGF held in Nairobi.</div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Has any of the discussion from the EAIGF been used to inform current sentiment toward intermediary liability?</b></div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you very much,</div><div>Brandie L. Martin</div><div><br></div><div>--�<br><font style color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Brandie Martin, M.S.<br>
<br></font><div><font style color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Ph.D. Candidate and�Graduate Fellow<br>College of Communications</font></div><div><font style color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The Pennsylvania State University</font></div>
<div><font style color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="mailto:blm5350@psu.edu" target="_blank">blm5350@psu.edu</a><br>website:�<a href="http://brandiemartin.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://brandiemartin.wordpress.com/</a></font></div>
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<div><br></div><div>On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Grace Githaiga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Good morning Listers<div><br></div><div>I hope your week is starting well.</div><div><br></div><div>Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with this discussion for this week.�<br>
<p style="margin-bottom:5.0pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:5.0pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">As Kenya prepares for elections next
year, and with all the political alignments taking place, we are likely to see
intermediaries being blamed for carrying utterances of our politicians. The
media has been blamed many times by politicians for �misquoting� them yet in
many instances there is video footage to confirm that the politicians did
indeed say certain things. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<font color="#2a2a2a"><span style="line-height:12.75pt">For those
who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and resulted in
the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to Libya and three
American members of his staff by angry�</span><span style="line-height:17px">protesters (or lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or</span><span style="line-height:12.75pt">� where would you place the
responsibility for this eventuality? Would you say it is the video producers or or youtube or who?</span></font><font style="color:rgb(42,42,42);line-height:12.75pt" size="3"><u></u><u></u></font></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:12.75pt;background:white">
<span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">Lets hear it from you listers.</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">A wonderful week to all of you.</span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:12.75pt;background:white">
<span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">Rgds</span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:12.75pt;background:white"><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)">GG</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)"><br></span></p><div><div></div>> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300<br>> From: <a href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target="_blank">alice@apc.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya<br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>> <br>> Dear Chip and all<br>
> <br>> <br>> Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary <br>> liability discussions.<br>> <br>> However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our "mobile switch <br>
> off" (and here's a great article on that <br>> <a href="http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and-what-next/" target="_blank">http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and-what-next/</a>)<br>
> <br>> We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet <br>> liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But <br>> this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.<br>
> <br>> <br>> Best<br>> Alice<br><br></div></div></div>
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