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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear listers, <br>
<br>
Find attached an invitation to a breakfast meeting on 10th October
to discuss this issue. <br>
<br>
Best<br>
Alice<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/10/2012 13:03, Grace Githaiga wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:.1pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.1pt;
margin-left:0in;mso-para-margin-top:.01gd;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:
.01gd;mso-para-margin-left:0in;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-GB">This is
a follow up to Alice’s email in which she shared a study on
intermediary
liability in Kenya, and inviting you to a discussion on the
same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-top:.1pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.1pt;
margin-left:0in;mso-para-margin-top:.01gd;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:
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style="font-family:"Trebuchet
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lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:.1pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.1pt;
margin-left:0in;mso-para-margin-top:.01gd;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:
.01gd;mso-para-margin-left:0in;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-GB">Internet
intermediaries bring together or facilitate transactions
between third parties
on the Internet. They give access to, host, transmit and
index content,
products and services originated by third parties on the
Internet or provide
internet based services to third parties.’ <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-top:.1pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.1pt;
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style="font-family:"Trebuchet
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lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:.1pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.1pt;
margin-left:0in;mso-para-margin-top:.01gd;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:
.01gd;mso-para-margin-left:0in;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-GB">OECD identifies
Internet intermediaries to include ‘Internet access and
service providers
(ISPs), data processing and web hosting providers including
domain name
registrars, internet search engines and portals, internet
payment systems, e-commerce
intermediaries and participative networking platforms which
include internet
publishing and broadcasting platforms that do not themselves
create or own
content being published or broadcast’. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Trebuchet
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lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
11.55pt;background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">From a Kenyan
perspective, it is important to consider
mobile service providers as intermediaries since mobile
telephony continues to
set the stage for adoption of Internet access even though
they are regulated
under telecom laws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
11.55pt;background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
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mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
11.55pt;background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe UI"">Intermediary
liability
was indirectly discussed on this list last week through the
Piracy/WAPkid/Copyright discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe UI"">Question:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
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style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Trebuchet
MS";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">1.<span
style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe
UI";
background:white">Are there other ways that we should define
intermediaries?</span><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Trebuchet
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mso-bidi-font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">2.<span
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe
UI";
background:white">What role should intermediaries play?</span><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Trebuchet
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mso-bidi-font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">3.<span
style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe
UI";
background:white">Considering that they do not create the
content, should they be liable? And if so, in what ways? </span><span
style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif"">Please
feel free to respond to any of the issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif"">Rgds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif"">Grace<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:57:35 +0300<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alice@apc.org">alice@apc.org</a><br>
Subject: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya<br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>
<br>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Colleagues, <br>
<br>
This is an invitation to a discussion on intermediary
liability in Kenya starting tomorrow Tuesday 2nd October
2012, which will be followed by a breakfast meeting on
10th October at jacaranda hotel. </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">See attached the
initial findings of the study on Intermediary Liability in
Kenya. We welcome comments. Please note that this initial
report is a forthcoming publication, and it should not be
cited publicly until November, when the final report will
be made available.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The study notes
that there is a lack of a clear framework for liability of
intermediaries and a lot of uncertainty in understanding
our evolving post-constitution legislative environment
particularly in "regards to what offenses may happen on
communications networks and whether intermediaries would
be liable or not, this may have contributed to caution
and self-regulation. <br>
<br>
In addition, there seems to be no legislated take down
procedures other than responding in court to whichever law
was cited as broken. Do we need a </span><span style=""
lang="EN-US">"clear framework for liability of
intermediaries, and safe harbor legislation? What are
the strengths and weaknesses of the current situation</span><span
lang="EN-US">?<br>
<br>
We would like to encourage policy discussions on these
issues with the aim of providing concrete recommendations
and way forward.<br>
<br>
Grace Githaiga and Victor Kapiyo will take it from here<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Alice<br>
<br>
<br>
This is a project of:<br>
</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANET)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Open Society Initiative (OSI)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Association for Progressive
Communications (APC)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Google</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Ministry of Information and
Communications</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US"> Telecommunications Service Providers
Association of Kenya (TESPOK)</span></li>
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